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Looking to see if this makes sense to anyone else, or just me 
Seeing all the issues with Batteries, Carts, and Atomizers I started to rack my brain last week and figure out how there may be a way to improve the smoking experience.
These are the "CON’S" of our Current E-Smoking experience and what I will be trying to address/fix … From what I have seen on the forums at least…
1. Lack of smoke/vapor
2. Atomizers Dying
3. Batteries Dying/Charge not lasting more then a few minutes/hours
4. Carts not lasting
5. Not knowing when you have had your fix, and continuing to smoke. (IE: Taking in more nic then you would normally with reg. cigs)
6. God know what you are smoking from the Cart itself. Polyester, etc… ?
These are the 6 problems I will try and address below, and see if I may be on the right track to something.
It seems like the most successful way to e-smoke is through Dripping. By adding a single drop or two to the atomizer itself or adding several drops of e-liquid to the cart. Carts don’t last per Manufacturer Specs and some experience a "burning taste", not to mention, going through several carts a day seemingly can cost quite a bit.
Now, imagine if you take the cart completely out of the picture, and just drip.
In ideal world, this is what I would like to see.
An E-Cig that has a chamber/cartridge completely filled with E-Liquid. When time to smoke the e-cig, you press a button (much like the Manual Jenty Switch) and it drips a single drop of e-liquid on the atomizer. You then take 10-15 puffs (equivalent to a single cig) and you’re done. Battery shuts off, and is only on the for the time you smoked, thus saving battery life.
So, you would have, not only a longer battery life, but a CRAZY amount of smoke. You would also just refill a single cartridge/chamber when the liquid ran dry. You will also know once you have had the equilvalent of a single cigarette because there would be nothin else to smoke, and it would be consistent across the board. You could set up this type of e-cig to have a timer per say for how long the battery stays on after activating per the switch. Maybe 7-8 minutes.
Now, How hard would it be to make a chamber/cartridge with a valve, that opens/closes at the press of a button and drips on the atomizer itself?
Atomizers are really anyones guess. Some seem to last a day, while others last a couple weeks. If something like what I have stated above starts to work, then only atomizers would need replacing. If a generic atomizer could be made and bought in bulk, I still feel the price of the e-liquid atomizer would be cheaper then reg. cigs. Then, you take the materials from the Carts (Polyster) out of the picture, and are now just dealing with a liquid itself.
You guys follow what I am trying to say? Ideas? Comments Welcome!
Thanks 
|||Actually I like that concept.
I think it’s going to be a combination of a lot of concepts from THIS VERY FORUM that’s going to be the brain-child of the perfect e-cig and liquid. (Of course, T-Bob is going to invent the perfect liquid.) |||I like the above suggestions. I also kinda like the "disposable" concept. Buy them ready to go. Smoke them then till they’re empty and then toss them. However, Instead of tossing them in the trash I think they should be returnable for a refund to cut down on the pollution. Kinda like how in the 70’s you could buy Coke in returnable bottles. That way we don’t have to worry about recharging batteries and liquid. The average "e-cigarette" could maybe be equivalent to 5 packs and maybe we could buy a "carton" of 5 of them plus a small amount deposit. After they’re done we could return them for a refund on our deposit. The company making them could take the "empties" and recharge them. Making the deposit a decent price would discourage littering.||| |||I’m a believer that the masses will only take to this when it’s as easy as buying and consuming cigarettes. That means the atomizer/cartridge will be a disposable combination. And I do mean disposable, because I think deposits ended due to the costs of all those exchanges. These must be use-and-toss devices.
The present situation is similar to roll-your-own. A few will; most won’t.
Some big advantages of disposables will be — should be — elimination of the problems plaguing us now. No more atomizer failures, liquid in mouth, burned tastes, slick fingers, dangerous liquids lying around. But the cost has to be attractive enough to make a smoker want to do this. Most smokers you see on the TV tests now are disdainful of e-smoking. It certainly doesn’t replicate the pleasure a cigarette gives. Addicted cigarette smokers won’t give up cigarettes until prices and societal pressure force them to.
Then e-smoking has a chance, if it’s appealing in all ways. There’s a long way to go before that’s a reality.|||all these ideas and many more have been discussed already,and i hope the manufacturers have been listening!the nearest thing we have is the G300,which will be out in a few weeks.it has disposable combination atomiser/cartridge-a step in the right direction,but alas,its cartridge life is too short,and not cost effective apparently-and it still uses a core to deliver liquid.i think an injection system is a little way off yet.personally i want something i can slot in and throw away again without messing around refilling with liquid-if its going to gain mass appeal,e-smoking must become very convenient,and that means truly disposable…and i want to control my own smoking,not have the device control it for me-all that switch off after a cigarettes worth or a certain time isnt very important really.in fact it would be downright annoying.what we need are convenient,disposable,dependable and affordable e-cigs.maybe itll happen someday 
||| |||Guess I will have to be the ‘contra’ here…
- I do not like disposable, the world has too much of that allready. People need to learn that lesson… at most some small part of it, IF it is fully re-usable… sorry TB, we are going to have a lasting disagreement on this
- I would only like the dripping, if it would take over the role of the cartridge. Cartridge is something you can keep smoking from, dripping is not.
- Which brings me to the next ‘contra-indication’ (all for me, let that be clear ): I don’t w谩nt to stop after the equivalent of one cig. So one cig used to last 15 puffs… and? Does that mean I have to keep that habit going even when I am clearly n贸t smoking a tobacco-cig? What is important, th谩t I agree on, is how much nicotine you get into your system. That should certainly not be more, and hopefully will be less and become even more less over time, then when you smoked. But… I think it’s rather strange that people keep wanting to do this by taking 15 puffs (and th茅n what? ‘light’ up the next one? One really BIG advantage of e-cigs is: you take exactly as many sips as you want to take… be it 2 or 67… and then you can put it aside without any problems, without having to carry an awful smelling stub to re-light later, without losing flavour or that last little butt, without having had a need to leave your desk - so you can go straight on again without losing time… NONE of these problems… so just why anyone would want to re-invent those old habits is really beyond me… )
You can very well look at how many milligrams you are taking (per day is a good measure) and compare that with your tobacco from old days… there is no need what-so-ever, for me- to ‘divide’ my liquid into ’seperate cigs’. I used 20 mg smoking before per day? Ok… then I can’t use more then 20 mg now… and th茅n I decide, looking at my own regular habits and what I like with the e-cig, how much mg nicotine my liquid needs to fill that in, across the day, in what茅ver way I wish to fill that in… that is one big advantage of e-smoking… let’s not throw that away… I like to sip for-ever. And I c谩n… all I need to do is take a lower mg liquid, and I can go on endlessly, and still have less mg at the end of the day… ||| |||i agree that theres too much disposable stuff,but unfortunately thats the modern world for you.almost everything is disposable right now for a reason-convenience is king,and the masses want it,im afraid.hopefully some kind of compromise can be reached to make it more environmentally friendly. Lots of good ideas here. I esp. agree with having both disposables and refillables, controlling our own nic levels, and not being so hung up on replicating duration of a cigarette.
