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How to clean mini e-cigarette atomizer
Does anyone know the best way to sustain atomizer life heard allsorts of ways from cleaning in alcohol to running a cold tap through the atomizer, any one have a good way and how often do you clean it? all methods of cleaning atomizer appreciated
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what type of atomizer are you talking about?
mini e-cig, classic, cigar, pipe ??? lots of different types.
You can find more discussion and e-cigarette info here:
http://www.e-cigarette-blog.com/
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Flavorless
Has anyone heard of a liquid that has no flavor added? Just curious. I would be very interested in trying that.|||I remember seeing some, but i cant remember if it was a cart or fluid.
I will have to look and get back to you, if no one else does first.
You want nicotine in it at least i am guessing?
Otherwise its basicly water and VG or PG, and maybe a touch of alcohol.
That you could make your self easily. Its the nicotine part thats harder to do at home, hehe
|||https://e-cig.com/shopping/shopdispl…8&cat=E-Liquid - Tasteless.
Not that I’d recommend ecig.com though.|||Your the bomb you know that? I appreciate your link. But I’m still unsure on what juice is good and what isn’t. I know that Jane has been so wonderful. Just for her customer service I’ll stick with her.||| |||Huh? I have a bunch of e-cig.com liquid and it’s very flavourful. unless the link is wrong and it’s supposed to be going to a specific flavour lol
|||If you look in the ‘Select Taste’ drop down box there is a choice called ‘Tasteless’.||| |||I know there are many flavor in the market. like menthol, strawberry, regular(also called tobacco), marlboro, chocolate, grape, apple, so many fruit flavor. I prefer regular. I am not a heavy smoker. I like regular tasting a little sweet.
By the way, I got the super mini e-cigarette from e-cigarette-china.com, they are manufacturer, only 39.9USD for complete set. Further more, by using their coupon code: summercode, I won 6% discount. very satisfied with this transaction.
And menthol flavor from others, also tast good.
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Debating on trying an E-cig..?
Hello. I’ve been reading up on various models and I’ve come to the conclusion that the NJoy would probably be the best model to get.. but I’m a little reluctant to drop down 100$ for something I’ve never tried. I was debating getting the E-cig’s starter pack for the full length cigarette model (https://e-cig.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=31) to see if I would want to eventually purchase the NJoy. I’m not a heavy smoker (about half a pack a day) and smoke Camel Menthol lights. the thing with the e-cigs is the shipping for me, NJoy seems like it would be the better investment. I’m moving to Toronto, ON where cigarettes are 5$ upwards for the cheapest packs so overall it would still be alot cheaper and they offer free shipping currently to NA. With shipping just for the starter pack it’s almost 60$ for the e-cig. And overall either way I’m going to be saving a LOT in comparison to what the prices are. I just want people’s opinion’s on both as well as shipping times.|||The E-cig starter pack is a good choice for 1st time users in my opinion to see if they will like e-smoking.
However, keep in mind that you will get very frustrated because the batteries do not hold a charge very long and it seems like you are charging more than you are smoking. I would suggest buying 2 starter kits, because you will then have 4 batteries to play with instead of only 2.
I started out on the E-cig starter pack then went on to buy (2) Jantys and (2) NJOYs, which I enjoy very very much.
Rachel|||Right now, about the best price anywhere is dealextreme.com. As I write this, I’m using a DealExtreme mini cig. It came in a box of two mini cigs, with 10 cartridges and a charger for $36 (free shipping). One battery went bad immediately and I was quickly refunded $18. I have no idea how long this unit will last, but at least I don’t have $100 or more spent on something I might not like for long. Who knows?
At least with these devices, you’ll find out what e-smoking is like (not like cigarette smoking). And you’ll find out if you personally like it for all its many benefits. I’m sure more money buys higher quality — but do you need that for your introduction?|||As the TB and Dnakr said, it just depends whether you have the money to spend. I found the e-cig died pretty quickly, but it was certainly enough to get me sold on the whole thing.
SJ|||I’ve decided to try out the deal extreme’s package to see if I like it or not. -smiles- Or rather, to see how long it takes me to get used to it. It’s not really an option at this point to continue smoking as heavily as I do; while I can go up to a week inbetween packs, I get.. extremely cranky to be around without my nicotine fix. I -enjoy- smoking (just like everyone else here does i assume?) but i want my health to improve. If I like this model and it works out for me I’m definatly going to get an Njoy it’s a little more expensive than the crown7 model but they seem to be very good with their customers from what I have read here and on other sites reviewing them as well. I appreciate everyone’s advice. Thank you ^_^\
Edit: Okay, so I’m neurotic and can’t sleep and sometimes–that’s a really good thing! Ruyan is offering their new ‘mini cig’ model for 38$ (a whopping 1$ discount). I’ve also heard alot about this company but had trouble finding any decent offers except on ebay which had insane charges. So far, the cost of their refills is the cheapest I have found for the amount. 50 cartridges for 20$ with no shipping? O.o Has anyone tried this model/company? I’m concerned because I’ve heard about fake Ruyan’s/ripoff models and i’m not sure if this website is legit or not. although ruyanchina.com’s got a link to the same product through a different seller for the same price also. ruyanchina is an official seller for it isn’t it? I dunno. Just wary of buying something that’s going to break
http://www.ruyanhealth.com/index.php?ma … cts_id=238 the model
http://www.ruyanhealth.com/index.php?ma … cts_id=251 the cartridge|||Yeah, I don’t think that mini is made by Ruyan - that website is just selling them in addition to their Ruyan stock. From what I can make out the Ruyan is only the V8 - all other models are made by different manufacturers with a massive variation in quality.
Hope this helps!
SJ|||eeh yeah i figured as much, haha. I’m going to check out the dealextreme offer to see if i’m going to like it or not. I really can’t afford to be too picky, I want to do it for my health but i don’t want to give up smoking so this should be a workable medium–even if it just means i cut back on my normal cig consumption. I want to switch over completely if I like it. And if it works out.. I’m going to get an Njoy or one the Janty. I appreciate the answers
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The DX looks like the 1e, which is the older version..|||I think you’re right that the DealExtreme Health mini cig is first generation, but so what? That explains its low price. This technology is changing so rapidly that I bet our best models today will be antiques in half a year. These things are brand new, with high failure rates and somtimes poor satisfaction. That will change. I’ll start as cheaply as I can, then throw Big Bucks at a model that seems to satisfy everyone, with lots of vapor, every time, and a 5-year warranty.More and more e-cig for sale, 38usd for des901 mini e-cigarette, yes, it is cheap, but it seems not good package. And found a new style mini e-cig on the same website said by MissFire, http://www.ruyanhealth.com. They call it Super mini e-cigarette and claim only 10cm length. and looks more like a real cigarette. Did anybody used to try it? http://www.ruyanhealth.com/index.php?ma … cts_id=266.
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The TRUTH of mini e-cigarettes.
We all know that the original Ruyan, Kissbox Classic, and Njoy e-cigarettes are namely one of the best e-cigarette in the market today.
Despite the differences in price, how did we figure out if one is better then the other, when most e-cigarettes generally have the same appearance?
The answer is simple. It’s because the components(mainly the atomizer) differ in quality for every brand.
But what about mini e-cigarettes? They are also another form of e-cigarettes.
We had many users on this forum who purchased cheap mini e-cigs, namely from eBay and dealextreme for about $30-40 USD, complaining about it’s performance.
And because of these priceless experiences, I think the whole forum here have a general impression that the mini e-cigarettes suck. In fact, they tend to bash on all mini e-cig retailers without even having a first hand experience.
But here is the truth. There are dozens of different manufactures for mini e-cigarettes, and the quality can differ for every brand, just like the classic e-cigarette. We can’t assume all mini e-cigarettes are the same.
And so today, I will give you everything I know about the mini e-cigarettes. (Mainly the DSE series)
The first mini e-cigarette to ever hit the market are the DSE-901 series. (picture below)

This particular model suffers from a somewhat big length, however it draws a plenty of smoke, quite stable model for a first generation.
The DSE-901 series are still manufactured, and you can easily spot find in many resellers.
One company that specializes in this particular model is http://www.e-cig.com
You can also find them at http://www.supersmokeronline.nl, http://e-cigs.co.uk
The second generation of mini e-cigarette to hit the market are the DSE-902 series.

This model has some improvements over the first generation, mainly the shorter atomizer, and it’s thinner body.
But because of it’s thinner body, the battery is much longer which still results into length problems. It is also very hard to inhale on this device.
You can’t really buy this product anymore as there seems to be no manufacturing going on for DSE-902. However there is another brand to DSE series known as the Health brand, which can be found on http://www.ebay.com and http://www.dealextreme.com for about $30-$40 USD
Be aware that the health brand has serious quality control issues, and the cartridges taste awfully bad. It’s one of the lowest quality devices you can buy. If you are serious about e-smoking, avoid this at all cost.
The third model to hit the market is the codename DSE-901, DSE-101, or the v9


This model improved on all areas, mainly fixing the design flaws of last 2 generations.
It has a smaller battery, and even a smaller atomizer that sits inside the mouth piece.
The length of this model is usually 100mm, and 89mm length version is also out there.
However, there is still a problem with this product. The cartridges are too small, allowing on about 60 puffs, and the atomizer gets burnt if smoked with an empty cartridge. It also draws less smoke then the DSE-902 series.
This product can be found all over the web. It is the most common e-cigarette up to date.
Some websites include http://www.cigstar.co.uk/, http://http://smartfixx.com//, http://e-cigs.co.uk
And then, there is the newest, and the best mini e-cigarette, the DSE-103.


In appearance, this model looks just like the DSE-101. However, the cartridge and the mouthpiece are now a one part.
This particular model holds more liquid, and a new improved atomizer that draws more smoke, and does not burn like the DSE-101. This is the BEST mini e-cigarette model out there.
This particular model can be found at http://www.minicigarette.net and http://www.loongtotem.com
And there it is, everything you need to know about the mini e-cigarette series. Keep in mind that there maybe companies out there that uses it’s own proprietary components. Mini e-cigarette is still a developing technology, and maybe not as stable as the classic e-cigarette. But if you can buy the latest models such as the DSE-103, you shouldn’t be facing too much troubles.
I hope my contribution of knowledge can enlighten the users here for the enjoyment of mini e-cigarettes.|||i rather like the dse901.. longer yes but all the ones i have tried and i have tried many produce plenty of smoke.. e-cig.com dont sell them by the way they sell their own not very good one off type.. it dosnt produce much smoke and gets loads of liquid in the mouth it also has an odd size thread.. e-cig seem to do their own thing and sometimes not very well.. their mini being a good example..
nice history of mini development thow..
trog|||Thanks for a very complete post. I’m one of those who bought a cheap Health mini-cig from DealExtreme. I still use it every once in awhile, but it’s dreadfully inadequate and obviously poorly made. I now have a much better e-cig — but would love a Loong Totem. Good post.|||Wow, where did you come from? Excellent post!!! 8-)|||Nice post; I hadn’t seen the DSE-103. The atomizer and cartridge are basically like the Janty Yentyl. The key, though is how easy the batteries are to suck on.
Just a couple quibbles, though; you left out the RN4081:
[attachment=2:30194zb8]RN4081_cigarette_with_6_cartridges_package.jpg[/attachment:30194zb8]
It’s basically the same as the DSE101, but the cartridge and the inside end of the mouthpiece are slightly modified to reduce the liquid in the mouth problem. And they have an easier draw than the DSE101 I’ve tried. You can distinguish it visually from the 101 or 103 because the battery has circular bands around it, instead of lengthwise stripes.
[attachment=1:30194zb8]RN4081_Hot_selling_health_cigarette.jpg[/attachment:30194zb8]
[attachment=0:30194zb8]RN4081_New_Model_e_cigarette.jpg[/attachment:30194zb8]
I would also disagree with characterizing the DSE901 as having low density smoke. The 901 I’ve got is a powerhouse, and OD’s me quickly. :mrgreen:|||Thanks for the information of RN4081. I’ve never knew a such model existed.|||Very interesting and informative post, added to the FAQ, thanks!
SJ|||Great job!!
I got a super-mini last week from ebay http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?…MEWN:IT&ih=006 and didn麓t know if it was an early model or a "state of the art" one
Now I know it麓s codename is DSE-901, DSE-101, or v9. Here with a Sedansa for comparing sizes:

By the way, I found the taste of those cartridges awful (haven麓t tried menthol ones yet)
Thank you very much for bringing light to this mess of manufacturers
|||Of the 5 minis that I’ve tried, the RN4081 is the best I’ve used. LOTs of smoke. Good tasted. Reliable, as long as there’s a fresh battery in it. I got it from ecigsshop.com, and it’s up there as the 100mm Ultra Mini.|||I also have to agree.
The DSE101 is not a good product. It has low smoke, and cannot handle many draws at once.
However, the DSE901 is an excellent product with crazy smoke, but the length is too long.
The DSE103 is the perfect product in my opinion. I bought this model from minicigarette.net, and it’s like having the DSE901 satisfaction with the DSE101 looks.two words… Suppliers ForumDoes anybody know where you can get the DSE-103 in the UK?
I believe the one I have is a DSE-103, but it’s unbranded so it’s hard to be sure.
I wanted to get another one for my partner, and we may as well have the same kind so we have interchangeable carts and parts. I’ve looked at both pillbox38 on ebay and the new e-cigs.co.uk but they only seem to have the other DSE models.
I’m pretty sure someone is selling them, or I wouldn’t have a free sample one, just can’t find who it is!
Cheers if anybody knows!I got a DSE901 over at puresmoker and wanted to buy a second cig for my brother in law. Him and his wife are Marlburo light smokers and wanted to introduce them to the best $50 can buy brand. 
I was going to get them a couple 901’s like mine but stumbled accross e-liq which I think is the california based partner to e-cig (I think?). Which as an earlier poster pointed out, does there own thing, and doesnt advertise there model numbers.
Is the new miniCig cartridges taste okay? I really didnt want to indtro them to dripping just yet and wated to keep it super simple and give them a look/feel/color that there used to.
HELP! I NEED SOME TRUTH!
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ECF
Hey guys, another collaberation needed for this one!
The forum has now been going for nearly nine months. In that time we’ve come a long way on this e-cigarette journey. I expect many here will remember posts that they found particularly interesting or provoking.
Sadly, the nature of a bulletin board is that all threads eventually disappear into the dark nether-regions of old posts, often times never to be seen again.
In light of that, I’d like you all to suggest at least one or two threads that you think stand the test of time, and you think visitors or newer members could benefit from reading. They can come from any of the forums except the review section or the diy-liquid section.
Thanks as always to all of you who make this forum such an excellent resource and friendly place to be.
I will kick off with a recent one from TB.
- E-smoking - can it prevent colds and flu?
- http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for…-atomizer.html
- The TRUTH of mini e-cigarettes.
- Manufacturers/Suppliers: What’s in your cartridges?
||| |||well, with the current publicity, you could probably crank that dial.
i realise my problem with the tags now, i was lookin for taggin options in the top menu. though it should be in thread tools, now i see it is at the bottom.|||Done, set to two, all the ratings have gone (well almost), we’ll see what happens.||| |||Is there a better atomizer design?
was glad when this thread got bumped today. i nominate it as a fav if only as it contains a very good graphic by jarvis on the anatomy of an atomizer and also a photo of the guts.|||Here are some threads that I don’t think should be lost:
Links to e-cig related legal/medical information.
Ingredients in cartridges or E-liquid
Vegetable glycerine (glycerol) - safety discussion
Inhaling PG - perhaps not the great unknown after all
A germ-killing vapor|||you are a health fanatic kate![]()
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|||There’s some very good info here! Thanks to all who have contributed, it helps e-noobs like me! 
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A new product found.
I have found a new product at http://www.minicigarette.net
It looks like an improved version of the mini e-cigarette.
I own a mini e-cigarette myself, and it has a small cartridge that fits on top of the atomizer enclosed by a mouth piece.
However, it looks like their version 2 models have a mouthpiece that is also the cartridge itself.
I will be buying this and see how it is. Does anyone know about these new versions?|||that web-site isnt loading properly or is it just me?|||It looks like an older version, the DSE101. I recognize the "mini Cigarette" logo, and the lengthwise stripes. Same kind of cartridges you describe. Not reccomended, it’s a hard draw, and doesn’t produce much smoke.|||Just received these from minicigarette.net
These are NOT THE DES-101’s.
In fact, it’s a DSE-103, which seems to be the newest generation of mini ecigs
I can confirm that It produces much more dense smoke then the DSE101
The mouthpiece is actually the cartridge itself, where the DSE101, the cartridge sits inside the mouthpiece.
Will post some more after several days of usage.
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Loongtotem E-Liquid
Has anyone ever ordered e-liquid from Loongtotem? From here:
E-Liquid - Loongtotem,Mini E-Cigarette,E-sigara,E-Zigarette V9
This must be where E-Cig (and the others) get their liquid. The pictures are exactly the same, and so are the flavors.
They list 8mg as their strongest liquid so I emailed them about that:
Dear Fred,
Thanks your replay.
Yes,if you want the bottles. We also have this .
We also have 16mg,8mg,24mg …..and our bottles also have 10ml,50ml 100ml ,500ml.
If you want any KG liquid .we also can make for you. We are the factory ,this is easy for us.
The 4mg,8mg,16mg is the Density proportion .
Best regards
JACK
(I’m sure KG liquid meant MG of liquid)
So yeah I was wondering if anyone had ever ordered from them?
Maybe it would be better buying straight from the factory instead of E-Cig? Or you could even request a pure e-liquid from them with no flavoring at all, at a really high density (24mg ) then mix Bickfords in for flavor and to cut it.|||Whoa! Great find. Saw a post not long ago from Dr. Loi who said he smoked e-liquid at 40mg strength and I wondered where he got it. So, a strength can be custom-ordered.
Given what Ruyan says about Italy ready to approve 0 and 6mg liquid (and we’re still awaiting Italy’s verdict), we might face a future of exclusively low or no nicotine fluid by government edict. If Loongtotem can ship, I want a large quantity of the highest strength I can buy, to use as a known nicotine source with Bickford and homebrew. Thanks for posting this.|||Isn’t it interested that exactly the same information appears in the e-cig website about the flavours on offer, even down to the same spelling mistake … coffe instead of coffee.
Another interesting thing happens when you click on the message section of that seriously annoying little blue box that follows you around and covers everything you want to read on the right of screen …. whose logo do we see ? Why none other than that of Ruyan.
Things that make you go hmmmm
edited … forgot to add, you are aware these guys are in China … Olympics …. liquid shipping banned
I have a Chinese guy working for me, tonight he was telling me about his mother’s frustration at not being able to ship any food stuff, let alone liquid to her son here in New Zealand. So the chances of getting anything from loong totem (what the … does that mean or infer ?) are a bit slim right now I think, 2 months from now, hopefully no problem, so they’d better get some super strength litre sized bottles ready hehe … to be watered down with flavours like bickfords of course|||Great Job - we now have another source to order from - Thanks.
|||I just went through the order process for a 50ml bottle and finally got to shipping. There is no shipping choice under $35 to the U.S.
Cannot bring myself to click "buy" when the shipping is far more expensive that the item I’m purchasing.|||That’s pretty expensive… It’d have to be a large order to make it worth it. Though if they can make 40mg liquid… it would be worth it too.|||Wish a US supplier like Meltrex would volume-order some 24mg tasteless, 50ml bottles and then share the shipping costs by marking it up a bit. The base price is fine. The shipping is not.|||Loong Totem does supply ecig.com with their liquid. i just asked
[7:05:08 PM] Mini E-cigarette says: yes, we supply the eliquid to ecig.com ,they order all eliquid from us|||So much for E-Cig being an original source, eh? Frankly, I don’t care if Great Leader Kim Funkyhair brews it in his basement. I just want it, at a reasonable price, without shipping costs that sound more like I’m ordering a car than a tiny bottle of liquid. EVERYTHING screws up atomizers, so that isn’t even a concern. Deliver by missile, for all I care. Just get it here!||| Don’t think so. I checked by trying to see how much it would cost to ship 10 bottles. $170!!!! No thank you. But it was a good thought while it lasted.
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DSE901 does yours smoke as much as Dusty
OK I ordered my DSE901 from smokester before the weeklend and its despatched!!!! really looking forward to getting it hopefully tomorrow it arrives!
OK now I am REALLY looking forward to getting it, thats some extreme smoke! Do they still smoke like that after a while??
-EDIT-
I got me spare 2 atomisers, do the batteries last a reasonable about of time on the DSE901?
This is torture! Like a kid at Christmas! I had my penstyle and this is JUST AS BAD and with new flavours to try!||| |||well,my matte white one is going very well right now…its smoking better than Dustys was…its better than most of the the shiny ones i usually get for vapour production-so far so good anyway…
of course for all i know it could diminish or burn out tomorrow…thats the curse of the esmoker i guess..but as of now,im very happy with it.
i got a mix of flavoured carts,plus i had some flavoured liquid and juice squeezed from old carts…and i dunno what the combination was that i came up with,but it tastes bloody lovely.
it will diminish over time,but probably not as quickly as the pen atomiser would…and youll probably notice a thicker,more satisfying consistency to its vapour…but of course the batteries and carts dont last nearly as long either.
im sure youre gonna really like it Tribal.
|||they pretty much all smoke as well when new.. i am now smoking the test atomizer simon sent me.. its working superbly.. tons better than my ruyan cigar or my two nearly new generic cigars.. tons better than my week old pipe..
its only had one hours use so far.. i will continue to use it as my main daily device.. occasionally i will compare it with my two as new test samples.. its very good as new performance wont last long.. how long depends on the use it will get.. heavy in my case.. if it lasts me two weeks in a reasonable fashion i will be happy..
i know one thing for sure thow.. the only way to keep that as new out of the box fresh cart performance is to chuck the cart when its only half empty and use a new atomizer every day..
these things start to wear out from the moment they are first used.. how much deterioration the user tolerates is down to them.. i dont tolerate much..
trog
ps.. i cant really afford to use the mini carts as they should be used.. to keep the performance i need my daily consumption would be far to high.. trying to use a super mini with carts only half the size would be even sillier.. and way way too costly..||| |||I think my mini from MyECig smoked as good right before it popped as it did new. And smokesters smoke great. Should have had the video up yesterday, but i ran out of time. tonight i promise.
-Dusty-||| |||i’m still trying to digest what you actually said…
||| |||Well…a mysterious package arrived this morning, a package I had not been looking forward to you understand despite waking up 2 hours early and getting all excited.
IT ARRIVED!!! The DSE901 is right here, its beautiful green LED battery(and an orange one on charge) and I absolutely love it! 3 spare atomisers will hopefully last me 2 weeks
I didn’t think much to the menthol flavour tho the Marlboro is quite nice and I haven’t tried the rest yet!
It smokes great, nice hit, as much vapour as Dusty’s too! I am ABSOLUTELY THRILLED WITH IT I can’t get over how great it looks either and Smokester’s service is awesome!
The carts are more harsh than the penstyle ones I had from Pillbox but not enough to make me not like them, the woolies look much cleaner and less yellow so maybe better for atomiser!
Thankyou to all for recommending me this fantastic ecig!!So yea a very exciting morning for me! One question I am having trouble telling the difference between interim carts and big fancy new ones. I have never seen DSE901 cats before. Some have tough plastic wrap on them some just thin baggies, can I tell from that!?
p.s sorry for the manic posting also I don’t rely on e cigarette, I have already associated that lack of ecig means sadness instead of tobacco smoke having given up many weeks before getting the ecig
i figured that i can’t endorse a product just because it looks the same. I can say that i endorse smokester though.


