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Hey Guys …

All these manufacturers have "Tobacco" flavored cartridges, now, where do they get the flavoring for those cartridges?

More importantly, where do they get flavors that taste like that of Premium Brand smokes? Is it all just chemicals mixed in a lab or do they literally take tobacco extracts and make themselves.

I have scoured the internet for Liquid Flavors/Extracts of Tobacco, and this is the only thing I have stumbled upon …

I would love to find a source of Tobacco Flavoring … Mix it with some PG, and have a grand ole time …

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Spirulina has been around a long time. Don't smoke it. It's not tobacco.

To get flavor, something has absorb the essence of a substance. Often that something is oil, but that won't do for us. Water gets some nicotine, but very little flavor seems to me. So what I'm getting ready to do is cook some pipe tobacco in vegetable glycerine. My hope is the glycerine will absorb both the tobacco flavor and the nicotine. I'll post back on how it works out. In the past, I've "cooked" the tobacco covered in water. This time, I'll cover only with glycerine.

After that, I plan to stick a vanilla bean in a bottle of glycerine and just leave it there. Instant vanilla flavored glycerine for vaporizing.

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my husband is being deployed for 12-15 months this february. im a nervous wreck as i've never been through this before. i was wondering if there are any special little things you can do for a spouse who is deployed. i already am planning a photo cd set to music with pictures of us, my 4 year old son (his step son) and our daughter, who is due this tuesday. i know ill write to him and email him but im already thinking of things to do to make his time while he's gone a little easier. he also has mentioned wanting something with all of our names on it, to keep close to him while he's gone. any ideas??

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Before he leaves, I would go to Build a bear and have him get one for each of the kids and do a short recording. Also either tape him or video him reading stories. That way your son will see him and his daughter will "get" to know him a bit. Another thing you can do is get a flat daddy. One of our group had one and took him out to dinner for his birthday and family parties.

http://www.imalreadyhome.com/flatdaddy.h…

Now, what to send him. You can send him free subscriptions: https://store.primediamags.com/

Someone else posted these suggestions:

Themed Care Packages

"Surviving the Sandstorms"- Eye wash; Nasal spray; Chapstick; Bandana; goggles/sun glasses; etc

"Laundry Load"- Laundry soap ('sample size' or Tide tablets kind) to pack in with their clothes鈥?in case there are no washer/dryers; Fabric softener sheets; clean socks and undershirts; Febreeze

"Lotta Java"- Tea; Cocoa; Coffee singles; creamer; sugar; International Coffee tins; cookies for dunking in coffee

"Thanks a Million!!"- Things that may "seem" expensive. Ex: Grey Poupon; electronic game of "Who wants to be a Millionaire?"; .

"Hang in There!"- Stuffed animal monkey; Banana bread; Banana chips; Banana pudding (the kind that doesn't have to be refrigerated); Monkey's in a Barrel game; card with a monkey on it.

"A Day at the Beach!"- sunscreen; beach towel; beach snacks; flip flop sandals (shower shoes); aloe vera gel;

"Medicine Cabinet"- aspirin; band-aids; Neosporin cream; A&D ointment; cold medicine; alka seltzer; Rolaids; etc.

"Staying Healthy"- nutrition/health bars (ex: Powerbar; Tigers Milk; Myoplex); vitamins; Nutri-grain bars; Gatorade or other sports drink (to stay hydrated);

"MRE/Mess Hall Survival Kit"- restaurant size condiment packs of: bbq sauce, mustard, ketchup, mayo, relish, salt. Pepper, taco sauce, ranch, cheese in a can dip, etc

"Correspondence Carton"- notebook paper; stationery; pens; pencils; stickers (who knows they may even play with these!!); envelopes, address book (filled out already of course); camera (with a note to send back once it is full);

"Action Hero's"- Powerbars; squirt guns; Red Bull drinks; small Army figurines; comic books; Gatorade; Red Bull drinks; etc

"To Be A Kid Again"- silly string; bubbles; small bouncy balls; hacky sacks; brain teaser toys (rubix cube, etc); deck of cards; dominoes; slinky, Frisbee's; Pez w/ dispenser; Nerf balls; sand box toys (pail, small shovel, etc);

"Bathroom in a Box"- TOILET PAPER!!! (the soft stuff); razor refills; foot powder; bars of soap; fresh, clean, soft washcloth; travel size shampoo/conditioner; toothpaste; toothbrush; etc

"Ruck Sack Snack Pack"- packed full of your loved one's favorite snacks鈥?possibilities endless. Doritos; M&M's; nuts; chips; dips; crackers; jelly beans; beef jerky; gum; etc.

"Breakfast on the GO"- mutrigrain bars; instant oatmeal cups; small boxes of cereal; pop tarts; Hostess donuts: Otis Spunk Meyer muffins; cocoa; coffee; Tang;

"Tube O Tasties"- Just as something different鈥end a package in a tube instead of a square box. Make sure the parameters are acceptable though.

"Stress Reliever"- back scratcher; bubble wrap; yo-yo's; bubbles; squeezy tension ball;

"Sloppy Kisses"- since we know chocolate melts over there鈥?send a bunch of Hershey's kisses. Bound to be "sloppy kisses!"

"I'm Nuts About You"- peanuts; cashews; pistachios; peanut butter cookies; any candy or cookies with nuts in them; Nutter Butter's; Peanut Lover's Chex mix; Fiddle Faddle with peanuts

"Rock On" or "Charlie ROCK"- pop rocks; music cd's

"Chili Today, Hot Tamale"- hot tamales (candy); small cans of chili; red pepper flakes (like the ones at pizza parlors); salsa sunflower seeds; Cajun flavor Pringles; Spicy chex mix; Boston red hots; peppered beef jerky; taco bell hot sauce packets; Extreme Doritos; chili powder; nacho cheese sauce in a can; Tums/Rolaids, Jalape帽o Ritz

"And this little piggy went to the sandbox"- (foot care kit)- foot powder; Dr, Scholl's boot inserts; foot lotion; foot file; fresh, clean socks; toe nail clippers; scrub brush; odor eaters for shoes/boots; foot soaks (either include a small bucket or large Ziploc bags to soak feet it)

"How do you eat your OREOS??!!"- regular Oreos; peanut butter Oreos; double stuff Oreos; low fat Oreos; chocolate filled Oreos; chocolate covered Oreos; holiday Oreos

"Muchas Gracias鈥achos Supreme"- Doritos &/or Fritos &/or any corn tortilla chips; Mexican Velveeta; salsa (wrapped in bubble wrap); small can of olives (don't forget the can opener); bean dip; nacho cheese dip; small can of green chilies; jar of jalapenos (wrapped in bubble wrap); taco seasoning; small paper plates or bowls (so they can make their nachos); taco sauce (especially easy are those condiment packets from Taco Bell); You could also send the sauces from the various Mexican dinner kits (they also have tortilla's in those dinner kits that are sealed so they would probably get there without molding or drying out); Taco Bell Nacho Supreme kit

"Sweet Tooth"- Nerds; Gummy Bears; Laffy Taffy; Bubble Gum; Tootsie Rolls; Lolli pops; (any candy that won't melt)

"Pamper Party" (for females)- Feminine hygiene products; shampoo/conditioner; hair barrettes and scrunchies (same color as their hair); facial scrub &/or soap; facial mask; lotion; shower gel; razors; facial moisturizer; tweezers; nail care kit; toner; special facial products (alpha hydroxy; eye cream; etc);

"Congrats on your promotion"- congratulation party favors; all your loved ones favorites snacks; sparkled cider (wrapped in bubble wrap of course); etc.

"For the Fisherman"- Goldfish crackers; tuna pouches; canned smoked salmon; cans of sardines; gummy worms; Go Fish card game; Field & Stream magazine; electronic fishing rod game; Sponge Bob Square Pants stuffed toy; fishing game toy (made by several different toy companies. Has a small fishing pole with a magnet on the end. Fish have magnets on their mouths);

"Say CHEEEESE!"- disposable cameras; cheese dip; Doritos; Cheetos; Cheese nips; Better Cheddars; Velveeta;

"Kick Back & Relax"- Dominoes; playing cards; magazines; books; music cd's; crossword puzzles; jigsaw puzzles; word searches; hand held electronic games; squirt guns; water balloons; bubbles; hacky sacks; Nerf balls; board games (Axis & Allies, Clue, Trivial Pursuit, etc);

"Christmas in July"- wrap everything in Christmas wrapping paper; peppermint flavored hard candies;

"Italian Stallion"- Italian cheese Ghardetto's; Pizza-licious Pringles; Pepperoni pizza Combo's; small Boboli pizza bread; pizza sauce (for dipping Boboli); canned Ravioli, spaghetti, lasagna, etc;

"American Classics"- Pez with dispensers; Cracker Jacks; Lifesavers; Necco Wafers; Pop Rocks; Nerds; Good & Plenty; Candy Necklaces; Candy cigarettes

"Deployed on Thanksgiving"- canned turkey; instant mashed potato cups; hard breadsticks; gravy in a jar (wrapped in bubble wrap); Hostess apple pies; small can of corn (or other veggie); something special to cheer them up on

**Thanksgiving (pictures from home; magazines; tape recorded tape; small scrapbook

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I was smoking Rothmans cigarettes six months ago but then some friends told me I try Davidoff cigarettes which have lesser MGs of Tar, Nicotine and CO. After trying to stick to it considering that these cigarettes will actually lessen health risks, I didn't like the taste and changed to Marlboro with same contents.

I understand that the cigarette box says SMOKING TOBACCO IS INJURIOUS TO HEALTH, so my question is does lesser Tar, Nicotine, and CO make these cigarettes a little bit better than others or is there no difference between cigarettes with less or high qty of these because at the end what you do is smoke tobacco.

I am trying to quit and I will quit soon (i.e., a year from now) but I just wanted to know if ONE mg cigarettes are any better than others???

Hope someone answers me.

Thanks

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Yeah, in a way lower tar is better so yes, but I think the real question is what are all the other additives they are putting in. Some cigarettes have like 50 known carcinogens in them, and nicotine paralyzes your cells that fight new cancer cells, so it is a bad combo. I'd think a low tar all natural cigarette would be the safest (but still not safe, duh.) If you want to quit you should check out www.njoy.com and www.crown7.com… they make e-cigarettes (a totally new invention) that make heated water vapor with nicotine and flavor. anyways, it is supposed to be safer than smoking, but is still like smoking. I quit smoking 6 months ago with an njoy cigarette. It doesn't taste super great, but it wasn't awful either. I smoked non-nicotine cartridges and after a few weeks just got tired of it. anyways it rocked!! So try it!!

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i saw a bunch of commercials on youtube for this european product, RUYAN that is nicotine that is vapourized and smoked, but isnt "as harmful" im not a smoker so idc, but i really want to find a way to use this for weed lol

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No. The electronic cigarette uses elements that are very different - and there is no actual smoke or fire.

Currently it contains nicotine, water, flavor (of tobacco) and propolyene glycol. PG is the stuff found in smoke machines that gives the electric cigarette the appearance of smoke.

The only way you could smoke THC with an e-cigarette would be to have it extracted from the weed, and put into the cartridge the same way nicotine it put into the cartridge.

It is a gel like substance where the ingredients are combined, and the electronic cigarette is more of a vaporizer. But it does heat up so it feels like real smoking.

Watch the girl in this source video. She takes it apart and will show you.

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Well, here’s the first part, the introduction, to my Video Demo of Johnson’s Creek Smoke Juice.

I am using my last black 901b atomizer, so I hope y’all appreciate it.

This first part just demonstrates the performance of a brand new 901b atomizer.

The second part will be a series of clips from throughtout a day or so, showing how the performance degrades (or doesn’t, if it surprises me) after using the JC SJ.

|||Leaford, have you tried running hte juice through a double coffee filter? Maybe that might help a bit? Perhaps not- just a htought - also, the trend in esmoking seems ot be movign toward disposable atomizer/cartridge units, so even if we can’t refine hte juice any further, the juice I think will work quite well in disposables which I can personally testify to- There’s no reason to give up on JC juice just yet- Especially if ECigg is selling the loong- or a clone at such innexpensive prices- For htose that enjoy the JC flavors liek I do, I thin we’ll still be able ot enjoy it with disposable atomizers

JC been takign an awful beating here o n the forums lately, but there’s hope yet, and he might yet refine it to be able to be used in traditional penstyles/minis too- let’s hope as his flavors are outstanding (if not a little weak though)|||Naz…

Disposable or not, do you still want to inhale all the sediment/oils/etc… in the liquid?

EDIT: Mind you, I am playing the Devil’s advocate. I’m neither for or against the use of JC Juice, simply an observer |||Meh- what little gets inhaled would be cuaghed out and I’m guessing that hte ingredients are all pretty innocuous? Especially compared to the 4000 or so chemicals in real ciggs- also, the sediments will be caught in the filter mostly I’m guessing. I didn’t see where JC uses oils?

I’m wonderign though just what hte sediments are from? Homebrew by leachign tobacco with PG doesn’t produce sediments? What additions could be cuasing sediments in JC? Would be nice to have Mac state for us|||Well, for one, I don’t think I should have to be doing his filtering for him, and for another, I doubt anything I could do at home would be more effective than his professional centrifugal filtering.

But besides, the new filtered stuff has very little sediment, and no cloudiness or oily film, so I don’t think it’s either oil or particulates causing the problem. I could be wrong, of course.

As to using it in a disposable, that might be an option, but at the moment I’m not using disposables, nor are most people. So that’s kind of irrelevent. Plus, the disposables aren’t designed to be refilled anyway, so it’s again irrelevent to what most people will be doing with it.

No, this is intended to be used to fill cartridges in our current crop of e-cigs, and it’s been causing problems when used as intended. Which is all I’m trying to document.

I am sorry Christian is "taking a beating" but sharing problems and issues with suppliers and manufacturers is the best public service boards like this can do. I think I am being very fair by pointing out what I like as well as what I don’t like about it.

Additionally, I am using the latest filtered batch, and being VERY careful to not shake it up, and to only draw from the top of the bottle and avoid the sediment, to give it the best chance possible. And who knows, maybe doing it this way it’ll surprise me and not cause a problem.||| |||I cleaned one out which had dropped below a 2 out of 5 on both vapor production and draw, and got it back to a 4 on draw, and 3 or so on vapor. It’s in my just-in-case-all-else-fails drawer. BUt that took a through cleaning, running it under scalding tap water, shaking the water inside the barrell, blowing HARD through both ends, and repeating several times. But after just over a day, that shouldn’t have been necessary.|||assemble everything (without a cartridge) just the battery and atomizer, and try blowing htrough hte battery end for those in that drawer- this will initiate a burning off of hte crud, but you will get soem burnt taste, so go slow with it at first- see if this brings the worst atomizers back to life- I’ve had it work on a few (but had to put up with hte bad taste for an hour or so)|||Thanks for the Sacrifice Leaford.

I am waiting to see your results.

On a side note, I think it was your videos that first directed me here |||Thanks, Magus. I’ve been off the horse on the videos for a while, but I’m getting back up now.oh no!! look what i did! Im making someone send a 901 atomizer to an early grave. Im going to hell with gasoline drawers on!leaford, thank you for your reviews they are enlightening. I noticed on your first video in this series that really the vapor was not great even with new battery and atomizer. I was sitting here puffing my generic 901, with a regular cartridge, getting twice as much vapor with a regular cartridge. Maybe its because I don’t inhale as deeply as you, so more vapor comes out of me lol. I too would be willing to replace an atomizer for you in appreciation of these valuable reviews.

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I’m trying to make the transition from traditional cigarettes to e-cigarettes, but unfortunately I keep finding myself wanting the real thing. One thing I started doing that really seems to help is to smoke e-cigs like I would a normal cig (go outside and the whole bit). Unfortunately, e-cigs just don’t deliver the same punch nor do they really act like traditional cigs. I’d actually prefer it if after ~15-20 puffs they’d just turn off for a minute so that I knew that my time was up.

My next plan of action is to buy a pack or two of Eclipse. I’ve used them before, and they certainly seem to be similar to e-cigs in my opinion. Though, like regular cigarettes, they go out after a fixed amount of time and deliver slightly more punch. I figure, after a few days with Eclipse, the transition might be easier. Anyone else try this path?|||I haven’t tried Eclipse. If you’re really planning just a few days for transition it doesn’t much matter one way or the other - you could use anything that doesn’t contain, let’s say, heroin or drain cleaner.

If you are thinking of longer term Eclipse usage you might want to read Michael Siegel’s analysis. I generally trust him on tobacco issues.

For other options… Snus and prescription nicotine nasal spray give a good hit, if that’s your primary need. And they can be used longer term while esmoking. There’s more discussion of such things in the Other Alternatives to Smoking section.|||I have tried a friends Eclipse once and I think it will be an excellent transition, as they taste is pretty bad and the hit isn’t that good either. You will really enjoy the ecig after an eclipse if that is your last memory of a "real" cig. haha|||Not to mention the expense.|||Eclipse cigarettes are very interesting … taste … kind of like charcoal, and the smoke hit can be quite hot/steamy going down the back of the throat. the Nic hit is useless, but the smoke hit is definitely there. I smoked them exclusively for about 2-3 months back in the day. Expensive ……|||Eclipse?? Can someone enlighten me? ||| |||Sounds utterly discusting!!|||I’ve been using nothing but Eclipse (a single pack so far) and e-cigs for three days now. I may have to buy another pack of Eclipse tomorrow.

The e-cigs are more and more appealing after using Eclipse and I feel like there’s some sort of comfort in having a pack of smokes available if I need it. At this point the only thing keeping me from smoking e-cigs exclusively is either psychological or the fact that e-cigs are somewhat hit or miss when it comes to vapor production… Mostly psychological I suppose

The Eclipse are sort of nasty to be sure. I’ve tried both menthol and regular in the past. Really, the only difference is menthol is slightly minty whereas regular is just like inhaling steam. I’m not sure which I dislike least.

Aside from taste, I think Eclipse are given more of a bad rap than they deserve. Certainly, quitting is the best option, but I can’t imagine Eclipse are worse than cigarettes, as some imply. If they are, then I’d really like to see the study. In my mind, Eclipse are somewhat like e-cigs in that they give you the nicotine hit and some flavor without as much of a risk. Sure, there may still be a risk, but the point is the risk is reduced. And even if the risk is 90% of a traditional cigarette, I think it’s worth marketing. I guess if RJ Reynolds sold e-cigs they’d get sued for causing dry throats.

In my case, however, I’m just using Eclipse so that moving completely to e-cigs is easier. So far I think it’s working

Regardless, I’d like to eventually move completely to e-cigs. Though I guess there are probably risks with e-cigs too |||

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Hi all.

I regularly read this forum, and have now had some experience with all of this, and so I have an…..assumption, and some questions.

I think a lot of us have had this experience… You get a new atomizer, crank it up, and the vapor is AWESOME. You really enjoy this new atomizer, BUT, after about 4 days of use, the vapor is still acceptable, but no where NEAR what it was on day one. So, you wash, clean, scrub, change carts, bats, etc. but can’t seem to get it back to it’s original glory. I’ve had this happen to me with an Njoy, Generics, a mini, and now with my Janty.

So, I been thinking about the construction of the atomizer and trying to figure out what changes from day one through day four. Here is what I am thinking…

I don’t believe that the wire mesh used to transfer the juice from the cart to the atomizer and surrounding the porcelain pot is degrading. It’s function is simply to transfer and hold the juice, and I find it hard to believe that this role degrades so rapidly. Second, The heating element itself may become charred somewhat, but again, I doubt that it’s ability to produce sufficient heat to vaporize the juice disappears. I’m also ruling out the batteries here because if I use those very same batteries on another new atomizer, I’m back to AWESOME vapor again. So, this only leaves one element, the material used in the core of the heating element.

I’ve seen in some of the photos that this core is normally charred and black after use. It is believed that this cores role is to provide physical support to the heating element, and to provide a method for the juice to get from the steel wool to the heating element. Now THIS sounds like it’s a likely candidate to be the component that is so drastically changing over those magic 4 days. So my questions are…. Does anyone know what this core material is? And, if it’s role is as assumed, why are they not using the same steel wool that is used on top of and around the pot? I assume that it too could support the heating element, transfer the juice, and NOT burn up.

And, depending on input from all of you, I have one last question… Is there any way to disassemble an atomizer NON-DESTRUCTIVELY? If I thought I could actually take one apart AND put it back together in a functional state, I would probably like to experiment a bit with this core-material and try and identify why my atomizers are only my close friends for about 4 days.

OK, so what am I missing?

Tex|||After ripping several atomizers apart i have come to the exact same conclusion as the mesh is still clean and free of debris but the wick is charred and stops soaking liquid as it should.

I struggled at first with the cleaning and think i found the secret to getting them 100% back to life as the one i have at present is 11 days old after 2 cleans as good as new.(could also just be luck)

When the atomizer starts to block place it in a pan stood on the battery end and fill with water to the level of the collar, then boil the water for 15 mins or so.(this makes the atomizer hotter than the water and causes bubbles of air to rush up inside the atomizer)

Now swish it about, drain, blow out water, add 3 drops of liquid, full cart and hey presto.(can take a good half hour puffing to flush water out and liquid in)

This could all be luck or simply the use of different liquid but give it a shot and let me know what you think|||steam cleaning !!! now theres a thought. i have a steam steriliser here for baby bottles etc..i may just try that when my atomizers start playing up.|||Hi Ted.

Funny about your suggestion. I JUST got done boiling a generic pen style and my mini. Of course, the pen style atomizer I am playing with a Glycerin/Coconut flavoring mixture (cause I puff to much with the high nicotine ones and needed something to play with) but it is cranking out a LOT of vapor, but again, I can’t attribute it just to the cleaning. I am going to boil another two generic pens and will only use (factory) carts to test those.

As for the mini…It too appears (so far) to be producing a lot more vapor. Lets see if it lasts.

Boiling does (on my first try) appear to improve the atomizer performance.

Anyway, I’d still like to get some answers. I’m silly that way.

Tex|||Yep had a few goes myself and the key seems to be standing it on its end as this gets the air bubbles to pass through the chamber cleaning the wick.

I’m sure between us all we can find a solution to the clogging issue as it seems to be around every corner.||| |||Apostle that was a brilliant thought!

I hauled my trusty old ‘Steam Bee’ out the cupboard and put the nozzle onto my atomiser. It has a pressurised steam that shoots out in bursts so I was a bit afraid I would blow my atomiser to pieces but thought it worth the try. I could not believe the gunk it blew out. Better still I haven’t waited for it to dry out either and it is working beautifully!

Just one word of caution it does make the atomiser very very hot - so if anyone tries this bear that in mind.

I think I have found my holy grail for cleaning. It’s very fast to do as the little steamer heats up quickly. One gets a combo of pressure & steam with this device. And it is great for cleaning other stuff too.

JML Steam Bee from JML Direct|||Felt inspired by the first attempt so I just steamed all my atomisers. Again I just waited till the atomiser cooled and then started puffing! All working like new so far.

I found two things, firstly the burnt taste has gone from my one atomiser that I tried cleaning yesterday with alcohol and then boiling. I thought I had ruined it as it seemed dead, but this morning it perked up. Although boiling improved it I could still taste a charred type of undertone. That is sorted now and I feel really pleased about it as I detest that burnt taste.

Second thing was that it left my atomiser very thirsty! I dripped a few drops onto it but the cart still seemed to empty really fast. Topped it up and enjoying the feeling of having brand new out the parcel atomisers. Hope it lasts and things don’t go pearshaped tomorrow - but so far so good!|||These are great ideas.. I might have to try them out on some of the atomizers I tested and I didnt feel comfortable selling because the draw was more than it should be..

Phil|||a steam bee eh? would love to try this. anyone up for swopsies on an ultrasonic jewerly cleaner?…i know you are!!I found a cheap one at Amazon: Amazon.com: Electric Steam Cleaner: Home & Garden

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Thought this might be an interesting and helpful database for the e-cigarette forum.

Document whatever Your Anniversary of Not Smoking is that you consider important, i.e., 1 day/week/month/year.|||July 17 2008 - 3 month Anniversary.

PS I bought and smoked a pack of regular cigs in less than 24 hrs on my 3 month Anniversary!|||Cigarette free since …. September 12, 2007

Had a few whisps of a cigar about 2 weeks ago that didn’t go over to well …||| ||| |||July 17, 2007, was my quit-cigarettes date.|||I got my first e-cig on April 2nd.

Gradualy I smoked real ciggy’s less and less.

Last week sunday, a week ago today I smoked my last cigarette.

That was a 9:00am.|||I’m pretty sure my quit smoking date was Tuesday 1st July, 2008 - It’s four weeks tomorrow - Whoo hoo!

|||March 17, 2008…….just over 4 months now.

Now if only I can conquer my chocolate addiction. |||June 10th for me…. almost 7 weeks! I’m sitting here with 7 packs of my wifes Pall Malls about 15 feet from me, and 2 cigs in her (get thee behind me Satan! LOL!) ashtray (about 18" away) that look like she only had one puff of each. Seems she’s determined to help me get used to being around cigarettes as a non-smoker LOL! My last analog cig was April 14th, 2008. Did try one regular cig about 6 weeks ago at a bar, it was terrible.In May/June I started the "quit smoking" adventure. I was smoking a pack a day of those little cigarette-sized Swisher Sweets. Bad, bad, bad. I tried Become-an-ex.org and they actually called me and sent me nicotine patches for free. I couldn’t figure out the computer diary though and was substituting food for smoking. Also, for some reason, I just couldn’t bring myself to stick one of the nicotine patches on my skin.

Sometime in June I came across the Njoy site and decided to order one. I got lucky with my first e-cig. It worked; for a while anyway. But Njoy back then took phone calls on the first try and sent you replacement parts, no questions asked, right away. They’re still pretty good as far as customer service goes; no complaints. I have had very few regular cigs since I got my first e-cig. Probably been 3 months since I had my last cigarette. I have discovered if you’re gonna be successful at this, you need more than one e-cig - at least two with a couple extra atomizers.

I now own one each of Njoy, ePuffer, MyEcig, and PureSmoker pen styles, and I just got my first PureSmoker mini. This e-cig thing has turned into quite a hobby, as I like to play with flavorings. Most of the time, I don’t even need any nicotine. I usually have some low nic e-liquid in one of my e-cigs though. My addiction wasn’t so nicotine-involved as it was the oral fixation thing. So I think that’s why I’ve been so successful. I use them like a pacifier. Congratulations to all of you for quitting/cutting down on regular cigarettes!

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Well, having been a regular user of medicinal nicotine lozenges for years and years, I can’t really see the point in Ariva and Stonewall.

They are marketed as dissolvable tobacco, and from what I can gather are highly powdered, flavoured and compressed tablets of tobacco. I suppose they are aimed at the dipping tobacco market, since the website makes great play on the fact that there’s no spitting needed! Clearly there’s no spitting with the medicinal product either, and absolutely NO TSNAs (Tobacco-specific nitrosamines - the cancer causing agents in tobacco and tobacco smoke).|||I’ve used both, so can comment with some authority. Basically, I use Stonewall because of price. Pure and simple. The things are cheaper per piece than any of the now over-the-counter nicotine replacement offerings. I have a friend hooked on lozenges and he’d save money going back to his cigarette habit. Another friend has been hooked on gum for two years and is a non-stop chewer. Too expensive! Plus, lozenges do not serve up enough nicotine to give an ex-smoker a hit, so cravings remain. Ditto for all the other offerings that max out at 4mg.

Let me add that Stonewall (I used Ariva when it first hit the market) can’t satisfy me alone, anymore than some gum or lozenge can. I still love to smoke, not inhale, a pipe. I’m using the new e-Pipe now in some non-smoking environments. When I’m about to go nuts, I use Oliver Twist bits. HEAVY nicotine hit. I’ve worked out a rotation combination that works for me, and keeps me from deeply inhaling smoke. I know the damage it did, and would continue to do.

Also let me plug snus in dry pouches. I’ll comment further on this in the special forum for snus. I use them almost non-stop, even while smoking a pipe.|||So i contacted the makers of Stonewall/Ariva and they are sending me a box of each product and blend to try out. I just called to find out where i could buy it and they offered it to me.

So far the service has been great and the lady was really nice.

-Dusty-|||I hope you enjoy them as much as I do, Dusty. The Java flavored Stonewall bits are daily fare for me. They’re the first thing I reach for when I awaken each morning and the first thing I do after completing dinner. My local tobacco store stocks them for me and I go through about four boxes a week. That’s in addition to several tins of snus and my e-smoking. (Oh, and about four pipes of real tobacco each day.) I know I could not do without Stonewall, among everything I use. I’d almost rank it first on my own list.

It did take time to get used to the bits. There’s no instant nicotine hit as with cigarettes. They take about 45 minutes to dissolve in the mouth. But they maintain a steady-state nicotine level in the blood. And they taste great (I buy java exclusively).

Post your thoughts after a few days of using them. (And you’ll hate the tamper-proof container.)|||i’ll let you know how i like them.

The NM distributor is supposed to call me on monday so hopefully i’ll actually know where to buy them.

Went to the local tobacconist to see if they carried snus, and they don’t. They did say that they should be carrying it by the end of next month, so we’ll see how that goes.

Where do you buy your snus? online or local?

Thanks,
-Dusty-|||Rat, could you give me the contact info? I wanna try, too. I’m not interested in it for regular use, but as Bob said, backup systems are always good. |||http://www.disolvabletobacco.com/

that is their webpage. i called the number that is listed on the "get connected" page.

They claim Ariva is sold at walgreens and rite-aid, but i didn’t see it here. granted i only went ot like one walgreens that was in the ghetto.

-Dusty-|||Thanks, Rat. I’ll check it out later.|||no problem at all.

-Dusty-|||Dusty: I buy snus at a Sarasota tobacco store (Tobacco Depot chain) AND online. The only Swedish varieties available in the U.S. are a limited amount from Swedish Match, the biggest snus company. I buy CatchDry Peppermint, which tastes like a breath mint, is quite weak in nicotine, and lasts for an hour or more per portion. They also sell General portions, which are somewhat stronger and have a tobacco taste. Avoid loose snus. You want portions/little teabag-like pouches.

In some parts of the country, you can now find Camel and Marlboro snus being test-marketed. I like them. Both are tasty .. and weak in nicotine. The Marlboro is extremely weak, leading some to conclude snus is being set up for failure, to keep smokers on cigarettes. There’s also SkoalDry Cinnamon, which Skoal doesn’t call a snus, but it is. It tastes like Dentyne chewing gum.

Online, from either http://www.northerner.com or http://www.buysnus.com, I order Wise snus, both tasteless and citrus/menthol (I don’t like the regular Wise flavor). These are extremely potent snus that can spin your world in 10 minutes if you combine it with, say, e-smoking. Voice of experience speaking here. I use the 6mg Wise dry portions, not the weaker 3mg ones. The tasteless is wonderful and can be used with any drink or food, without messing up the taste.

By way of comparison, a cigarette might have 1.5mg of nicotine. You suck that into your system in 10 minutes. A Wise 6mg hits your system about 10 minutes after you place it between check and gum! It’s much stronger than a cigarette and much stronger than e-smoking 24mg liquid. If the strength ever bothers you, take that one out and try again later. Or use 3mg snus.

Lucky Strike is a good snus with a tobacco taste. I also recommend snus aimed at women: Vertigo in both flavors and Romeo y Julieta Senorita. Despite what you might read on snus forums, don’t go for the strong or loose stuff that will grow hair on your shoulders. Most people won’t like it and will give up snusing. The beauty of this is not only that it provides needed nicotine, but that it does so invisibly. You can use these anywhere, anytime, and no one need know.

And the overall cost of snusing is far less than smoking cigarettes.

Hope this Snus 101 helps.It helps very much.

so the skoal dry is actually a snus? guessing it isn’t cured the same way as regular skoal?

Thanks,
-Dusty-

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Here is my review for Johnson Creek Original smoke juice.

A quick disclaimer. When reviewing liquids the taste thing can be a problem. This is very subjective and i know that. So please take my taste reviews lightly and understand that i can not tell you if you will like the flavor or not.

The video is also 40 minutes long cause i don’t edit. Feel free to watch a little or a lot.

|||Thanks for a thorough review on your findings of the JC juice Dusty, it didn’t even feel like 40 min really! Btw - did you review anything on the arctic mint flavor or did I miss it? I honestly can’t remember but if I missed it I’ll go back lol |||nope.. no arctic mint|||Well dustin you were right on the money with your review I totally agree with everything you discovered

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