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Sedansa Video Review and Demo, using my standardized ratings system.
| YouTube - Diva video review and Demo. | |
|||Hey great review. Looks like a good cig.
Too bad about the long time between drags. Is the wait less if you don’t drag for the max time (5 seconds?)? What happens if you take two short drags instead?
I like the bluish color. Very cool.
What color is the LED? It didn’t look the normal red/orange.
Great vid.|||Great video, leaford! Thanks!
I really like the green light……it doesn’t look so much like a real cigarette. 
|||Thanks for the video.
I personally would not like a e-cig to dictates to me when I can draw on it.
I think one of the reasons the battery last longer is because you can’t drag on it all the time.
I would like to know a month or 3 months from now how long you can use the battery without charging.
I also want to add that it’s pricey!!! To say the least.
I know you have the classic KISS also.
How do those two compair?||| ||| |||wow great review using a great format…. just a suggestion… you may like to indicate how many days have you used the product upon arrival, intensity of usage so that others can even better relate to your review…..
and hopefully there can be follow-up reviews after maybe 1 week, 2 weeks 4 weeks e.t.c. if you can afford the time…
and thanks a lot for this review…|||Great work Leaford, looks like there might be another raid on the bank! I have some experience with Sedansa (Nano v2) and it’s a very good example of the Super Mini style. I have also had some post-sales customer service experience. One of the batteries failed and they sent a replacement without asking for the duff one to be returned first (it’s now in my e-cig graveyard). Their shipping times to UK are broadly comparable to your experience. The initial delivery and battery replacement took about 7 days. All in all I’m very satisfied with this company.
Emp|||That’s sure good to hear, thanks Emp! |||BTW; I just found out that an Njoy style battery will work on the Sedansa atomizer, but not vice versa. I have added that to the interchangeability info above.I was looking into these a couple of months ago and convinced myself that I should wait. I have already spent enough money. Now after leadford’s review, I keep going back to look. Thanks leaford.Love the avatar - Santa Claus for grown-ups!
the line is the reverse of my parents’ mantra when they caught me doing something I shouldn’t: It’s not big and it’s not clever.
There was a craze here for putting joke stickers over the health warnings on fag packets fakefags - we sell fag stickers, smoking stickers to cover up the health warnings on UK cigarette packets, fake fags cigarette stickers and the big/clever gag turned up there.
sheesh - caught ripping off a bad joke…
EmpNice review 
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video comparison KISS vs Njoy
I just made this short video to compare the new KISS with the new Njoy. If others do so, I’m curious to find out if my Janty is not up to par. Thanks, just follow the link. ( I would of posted in the review section, but I just noticed Smokey has not authorized me yet, even though I’ve been around since january.
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|||Thanks Accordeur for the great video! Very interesting. Hmmmmmm…….. 
In the US we could have 2 Njoys for the price of one Kissbox with the 20% Njoy coupon.
I have been coveting a Kissbox, but I’ll have to admit that there really didn’t seem to be very much difference.|||Yeah, I tried my best to inhale the same on both. I have to admit, with all the hype about the KISS, there is this wishful thinking that I have that it is better. But it’s not. I would prefer that others that own a KISS would tell me that I have a weak atomizer. Then I could still keep on dreaming that there is actually something better!!!!|||Moved to Reviews Section for you Accordeur|||Thanks Meltrex, I appreciate that.|||Hello All,
Been sitting on the side line reading for about a week until I got my own. I just got mine from Meltrex and gotta tell ya looking at the video my pen style puts out 2-3 X more vapor I also got the Super Mini and it’s just as good. And tast wonderful to me.
I have also order the KB yentl love the Colors.
Well just my 2cent’s what do I know I’m a newb :twisted:|||i agree with masterslave.i have to say that my cheap rn4072 penstyle from pillbox put out at least 2-3 times more vapour than either your njoy or kissbox -and my atomiser and batteries are almost 2 months old!!i really hope you just got a dud accordeur,cos if you didnt ive just wasted my cash on the kissbox.is this what you njoy buyers have been putting up with all this time?that is rubbish in every way.even my worst cheap minicig preforms better than either of them! 
||| |||accordeur,
I would say that your Janty is not working correctly. Mine produces a lot more smoke than yours. I only have the capability of taking a video with my cell phone or I would show you.|||I gotta be honest… Both of them seem to be wispy. Nowhere near the vapor production i would expect from either.
-Dusty-I don’t have my KISS to compare directly, but my Njoy puts out a lot more smoke than yours did. im practically next door to holland,and ive been waiting for 13 days now(my order isnt waiting for new parts)-it was posted back to them a week ago cos they messed up when typing my address-i thought theyd at least send it back to me quickly to compensate…but NO!how long does this have to take?!?i could have doggie-paddled to holland by now!they need to get stuff out faster,we’re all too impatient these days to wait around on stuff like this!
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Leaford
Well, here’s the first part, the introduction, to my Video Demo of Johnson’s Creek Smoke Juice.
I am using my last black 901b atomizer, so I hope y’all appreciate it. 
This first part just demonstrates the performance of a brand new 901b atomizer.
The second part will be a series of clips from throughtout a day or so, showing how the performance degrades (or doesn’t, if it surprises me) after using the JC SJ.
| YouTube - Johnsons Creek Smoke Juice Video Demo and Review PART 1 | |
|||Leaford, have you tried running hte juice through a double coffee filter? Maybe that might help a bit? Perhaps not- just a htought - also, the trend in esmoking seems ot be movign toward disposable atomizer/cartridge units, so even if we can’t refine hte juice any further, the juice I think will work quite well in disposables which I can personally testify to- There’s no reason to give up on JC juice just yet- Especially if ECigg is selling the loong- or a clone at such innexpensive prices- For htose that enjoy the JC flavors liek I do, I thin we’ll still be able ot enjoy it with disposable atomizers 
JC been takign an awful beating here o n the forums lately, but there’s hope yet, and he might yet refine it to be able to be used in traditional penstyles/minis too- let’s hope as his flavors are outstanding (if not a little weak though)|||Naz…
Disposable or not, do you still want to inhale all the sediment/oils/etc… in the liquid?
EDIT: Mind you, I am playing the Devil’s advocate. I’m neither for or against the use of JC Juice, simply an observer |||Meh- what little gets inhaled would be cuaghed out and I’m guessing that hte ingredients are all pretty innocuous? Especially compared to the 4000 or so chemicals in real ciggs- also, the sediments will be caught in the filter mostly I’m guessing. I didn’t see where JC uses oils?
I’m wonderign though just what hte sediments are from? Homebrew by leachign tobacco with PG doesn’t produce sediments? What additions could be cuasing sediments in JC? Would be nice to have Mac state for us|||Well, for one, I don’t think I should have to be doing his filtering for him, and for another, I doubt anything I could do at home would be more effective than his professional centrifugal filtering.
But besides, the new filtered stuff has very little sediment, and no cloudiness or oily film, so I don’t think it’s either oil or particulates causing the problem. I could be wrong, of course.
As to using it in a disposable, that might be an option, but at the moment I’m not using disposables, nor are most people. So that’s kind of irrelevent. Plus, the disposables aren’t designed to be refilled anyway, so it’s again irrelevent to what most people will be doing with it.
No, this is intended to be used to fill cartridges in our current crop of e-cigs, and it’s been causing problems when used as intended. Which is all I’m trying to document.
I am sorry Christian is "taking a beating" but sharing problems and issues with suppliers and manufacturers is the best public service boards like this can do. I think I am being very fair by pointing out what I like as well as what I don’t like about it.
Additionally, I am using the latest filtered batch, and being VERY careful to not shake it up, and to only draw from the top of the bottle and avoid the sediment, to give it the best chance possible. And who knows, maybe doing it this way it’ll surprise me and not cause a problem.||| |||I cleaned one out which had dropped below a 2 out of 5 on both vapor production and draw, and got it back to a 4 on draw, and 3 or so on vapor. It’s in my just-in-case-all-else-fails drawer. BUt that took a through cleaning, running it under scalding tap water, shaking the water inside the barrell, blowing HARD through both ends, and repeating several times. But after just over a day, that shouldn’t have been necessary.|||assemble everything (without a cartridge) just the battery and atomizer, and try blowing htrough hte battery end for those in that drawer- this will initiate a burning off of hte crud, but you will get soem burnt taste, so go slow with it at first- see if this brings the worst atomizers back to life- I’ve had it work on a few (but had to put up with hte bad taste for an hour or so)|||Thanks for the Sacrifice Leaford.
I am waiting to see your results.
On a side note, I think it was your videos that first directed me here |||Thanks, Magus. I’ve been off the horse on the videos for a while, but I’m getting back up now.oh no!! look what i did! Im making someone send a 901 atomizer to an early grave. Im going to hell with gasoline drawers on!leaford, thank you for your reviews they are enlightening. I noticed on your first video in this series that really the vapor was not great even with new battery and atomizer. I was sitting here puffing my generic 901, with a regular cartridge, getting twice as much vapor with a regular cartridge. Maybe its because I don’t inhale as deeply as you, so more vapor comes out of me lol. I too would be willing to replace an atomizer for you in appreciation of these valuable reviews.
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SHOW US
I was going to fully muck up the black light thread, but caught myself at the last moment. Windblown accurately noted the need for a third hand and I responded with a bit about my paraphernalia. And realized, I wanna see YOURS! 
So I’ve transferred my post here and hope to see some great gadgets following.
|||Something else you might want to check out:
There are several models from amazon:
Amazon.com: Helping Hand Magnifying Glass Soldering Third Hand Tool: Office Products
Its pretty easy to make something to hold the e-cig that the clamp will accommodate.
Phil|||Heres mine 
|||Kit, I hope you don’t have a cat. If my cat saw a table like that, he’d think it was a jungle gym and then everything would be destroyed.
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cheap easy way to steam clean
today i steam cleaned my janty kissbox atomizer and oh my it worked a dream. Let me tell you how i did this.
first i boiled the kettle
then i poured into a saucepan and found one of those lids with a small hole on the top which lets the steam out
i waited till it started to boil and lots of steam spat out the hole
i then got some tweezers and held my atomizer above it cart side down and then bat side for about 2 or 3 mins.
i blew excess water out of it from the battery side (beware leave to cool for 3 mins as very hot) and then left it to dry for a few mins.
put a few drops directly onto the atomizer and now it works like a dream! was shocked by the results:> went from bad tasting to delicous coffee. try at your own risk, but let me know how tings go for you. Cheers guys|||That sounds like an excellent idea. My question is how often does someone have to clean the attomizer?|||Depends how you use it, and When it needs it.
Some may be a day or a week, depending how much you use it, or how its used.
If the performance goes down, and everything else seems fine, then, youll know when
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another tip
If you are having problems with liquid in your mouth with
your 901, pull the end off (stick something in the small hole and pry)and put a small piece of paper towel inside and replace the end. Use a very small amount, not enough to restrict air flow.
Replace as needed.
|||hmm I just took a lighter and heated the plastic just enough to melt the seal around the end cap closed since the liquid wasn’t coming through the center hole but the sides instead .. didn’t think of shoving something inside of it
|||Its very easy to get the end piece off without any tools to pry it off with as long as you have some teeth. Gently bite the flat part at the end where you suck, the piece will pop right off in your mouth and you can then spit it out. Its also useful if you want a little more draw and vapour!|||With the Super Cigarette, there are two atomizer holes in my model, as directed by a gentleman on YouTube, I covered one of the holes with sellotape. It now produces twice as much vapour. I suggest anyone with a super cigarette try it. My two atomizer holes are right between the atomizer and battery, only drag is that each time you replace the filter or fill it with e-liquid, the sellotape has to be added back after. Don’t know if it shortens the life of the atomizer, but seems to be ging well so far.|||
| YouTube - electronic cigarette super mini | |
|||RUSTYLUG… that’s you? I saw this on youtube a week ago and thought it was really funny the way you delivered your message. 5 stars! haha I love this video. You should do more reviews and tips. Are you Scottish?
"That’s one Smokin’ Super Mini"!|||Well i did think of asking the suppliers to put a little box that contains small cut off strips of tape in with each starter pack hahahahaha ….Ps Did you notice my dog in the back ground near the end of the video lol ….Little mutt.
|||very informative Rusty…but I don’t see holes…maybe I need stronger reading glasses! |||My super mini seems to have 4 holes around it and puts out adequate vapor. So I just used my thumb and finger and covered up a couple of those holes and walla way more vapor, great tip and loved your video Rusty.|||bear nice idea but this doesnt stop the juice going up the air flutes thats where i get it !
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battery found that fits the loong threads
so i found a battery that fits the loong totem cartridge. its the battery from the device known as e-mini cig from e-cig.com and other places. its a good fit though the threads are not as long.
if you screw it in in wont work though as i thought perhaps the inner terminals were not touching. did a little soldering to make sure they would and still no dice. dont know much about batteries, so im not sure where i am going wrong.
dont have any other materials to use though i hope to find a little copper wire. pulled some out of an old flex but it was too thin and awquard to use.
i think the reason i cant get it to work though is that loong spent a bit of money on his batteries to make them difficult to be swopped for others. if you notice there is a crossed groove that is unique their design. I also cant get a reading off these with a multi-meter in the same manner i am accustomed to with other types which also perplexes me. the charger says they are 4.7V though.
The graphic i did up below tries to show what i mean. dont have a good camera at the moment so i hope someone will understand and point me in the right direction. the top image represents the loong battery looking straight down at the terminal and threads, labeled as "new battery". the one below is the more common ones we are all used to seeing. hope it makes sense.|||You’re just bnot gettign the right connection- I used a SmartFixx battery, and it worked just fine- soldered the loong threads onto the Smartfixx battery. It could just be that you’re not gettign enough draw to activate the atomizer too- try removing the endcap- see if that works to increase the draw. TB was also able ot get a Health cigg battery to work in the loong cartridges, but hte threads just didn’t quite fit- had to hold it all together- so it’s not the design of the htreads that makes it work, but rather the right connections|||i can see how soldering the threads from a loong battery would work but this is slightly different as im managing to screw in the threads from an entirely different battery. i’ll keep trying different things though, cant find any washers that are small enough, but if i could they would be perfect to decipher whether or not this battery will work. they need to be very thin also as there really isnt that much space to cover between the two inner terminals. what do you think of the loong terminals naz? can you think of any reason why they have that cross groove? air-flow perhaps? isnt it weird, i cant get a reading from them using a multi-meter?|||probably just airflow- Yeah- the way I did it used the same threads- but TB managed ot use different threads and got it working- The actual connections are kinda complicated as they have a small rubber-like seperator which keeps the inner pice from contacting the outer threads which prevents shortign hte whole thing out or runnning down battery quickly– I think probably what is happening is that the muddle piece on your battery isn’t touching the middle piece in the cartridge- if you manage to make a spacer, you’ll need to wrap the spacer in rubber or perhaps plastic to keep it from contacting the outer threads- liquid tape should do the trick- just put some liquid tape around hte edge of the spacer.
But really, if Ecigg’s super mini cig- their newest one- is infact the same as a loong- then I think we can just pick a bunch of batteries up from E-Ci8gg pretty cheapely and have a pretty good deal going and not have to mess with tryign to make other batteries work with spacers & such|||yeah true enough about e-cigs new model, but as i am yet to order or have it arrive, i want to mess around with this mini e-cig batt.
|||Here’s all I found on the LoongTotem matchup: The battery for the Health mini e-cig, as Naz mentioned, can be pressed against an LT cartridge and that works. But it has to be held in place. No solution at all. The battery for a Janty Kissbox screws right into the LT cartridge — but the middles don’t touch. No solution at all. The Janty possibility intrigues me no end, since I can screw the LT onto the Janty USB cable end. If I could just make that setup work, I’d be home free.|||you tried finding a small washer that would bridge the gap or used a bit of solder bob?|||I thought of solder and intended to try that. A washer would have to be super small, like for jewelry maybe. Haven’t thought of that.|||yeah i was raiding my mother’s jewelry stash earlier today. not a thing..good lead though, might try a menders.|||TB, find some copper sheeting & cut out crude washer with hole in it, but as I mentioned, you’ll need to somehow keep it from contacting hte outer part of hte threads somehow as it will most likely either short hte unit or drain battery- not real sure hte mechanics of it all, but when I took apart my threads (after it broke 
) I noticed the middle part was kept seperate from outer part by small rubber ‘bushing-like’ part to keep the two parts from connecting. This should work fine, but it would be loose parts unless you can solder them onto the battery- but it’s quite delicate work- tyoo much for my funble-fingers lol
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anyone tried any alternatives to the polyester cartridge filling?
im fed up with all the loose strands of polyester that fall into the atomizer and make that plastic taste and probably seriously harm my lungs. i have tried dry-smoking but i think i broke an atomizer that way. im looking into buying a meterial to hold the liquid in these carts. im thinking of using natural unbleached sea sponge. as anyone had any experience with this or other materials?
peace.|||i know there were some posts on the dutch forum about it, but i can’t find them now.. knew i should have made a bookmark.
Fine stainless has been used, but i’m not sure what else.
-Dusty-|||Lots of failures, as I remember from posts long ago. Rope, wool, cotton, sponge. All failures. Not even Dr. Loi reported finding a successful replacement for the polyester stuff.||| |||I’m getting lots of vapor out of my zero nic carts, just as much as the medium or low nic carts. When they get empty, I fill them with Bickfords and still get lots of vapor.
The last batch of zero nic carts I got from Smartfixx have this weird sort of sweet aftertaste. I don’t like it. So I thought maybe it was just the one box. Opened another box and the same thing. I don’t like the taste at all. I should email to find out if it’s something different they just got in. Sort of a "flowery" aftertaste - vaguely familiar but nothing I can figure out definitively.
~VP~|||Stainless steel wool in a fine grade.. sorry should have spelled that out.|||Somebody else said they were going to try sea sponge. I never heard back how that turned out.|||I cut up a cows hoof, shredded it finely, bound it in a coffee filter, and used it as a cartridge- the only problem is that I now have hoof-and-mouth disease||| |||Remember, P. Lorillard thought asbestos would make a great Micronite filter for Kent cigarettes back about 1952. It was used for the next five years — then people who made the filters started dying. Oops.
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Dr Loi
Dr loi’s original solution called for the wool from a used cart, with the addition of 3ml of normal saline plus 1ml of juice.
I’ve modified that to make it easier for me and perhaps you to use.
What do I use now.
I bought a 0.9% saline (sodium chloride, NaCl, salt) solution in a 20ml container. This is a common size.
In a 30ml eye dropper bottle I put the entire contents of the saline and added the wool from a mostly used cartridge together with the wool and the plastic cart, with the mouth piece removed, from 2 (two) unused regular flavour carts … Why did I put the plastic pieces into the solution ? I noticed there was quite a bit of juice still remaining in the bottom of the plastic cart I wanted included. I also think the plastic components will help stabilise the solution to a greater extent than the wool alone. Please also note I used a BROWN coloured glass bottle, nicotine is photosensitive, i.e. It discolours and may degrade when exposed to light. That’s why carts have opaque containers and covers.
I gave the solution some serious mixing by shaking the **** out of it several times over a couple of hours, pick up, shake, put down, shake again when I remember too, and then left it until the next day.
the next day, I again gave it a serious shake-up and then put 3 (three) drops from the eye dropper into the atomizer.
I put the atomizer aside for a couple of minutes to allow the solution to percolate through the whole thing.
I put a mouthpiece / inhaler on the unit and drew slowly on it until the LED flashed to show cut off. Steam was produced in increasingly vast quantities for the first 10-15 puffs, after that it began to decrease. I continued until the vapour produced was minimal.
Next was the addition of a fresh cart. I inhaled 10 or so times with a fresh cart in place and then placed it aside to allow the juice from the cart to be sucked into the metal wool surrounding the atomizer coil. This was the end of the day so it was able to sit there all night.
The following morning I certainly did notice a change, there was a considerable increase in the amount of vapour produced, and it increased with each puff for maybe 3-5 puffs the stabilised. the flavour had improved. previously with two of the atomizers cleaned I had noticed a burnt sort of flavour, this was now gone.
I wonder if the effect of the material others have noticed in the centre of the atomizer coil has been negated ?
There is a slight saltiness to the flavour of the "smoke" produced, I do not find this unattractive, in fact it may increase my appreciation of some flavours, e.g. licourice, I like salty dutch licourice, it maybe time to retry that.
Anyway, hope this helps some of you and gets either, your dead, near dead or otherwise atomizers working again|||Please note that during the cleaning process I did not inhale the vapour but merely drew it into my mouth and exhaled. the first 10 or so puffs with a fresh cartridge wrre also not inhaled.
I equate this to being a similar process pipe smokers go through to clean a pipe out periodically.|||Interesting - thanks for posting this. I will have to try.|||update 6th july
All of the atomizers I cleaned using the modified solution are still working as well as before. One thing i have noticed is that they all now have a slight and I do mean slight, salty flavour to them. i am not overly surprised by this and for the most part enjoy it as an addition to the flavour cart I am smoking.
It appears the salt is left behind as a residue on the internal components of the atomizer and is being removed slowly as time passes with use of regular ppg flavoured juice.
Salt is regularly added to tobacco products now as a flavour enhancer, it’s for example an integral part of snus. i must admit the slight salt inflection has coloured my assessment of the e-cig cartridge flavours and fror that reason I will be only using non cleaned with soloution, recently ordered atomizers from now on.
For general day to day use I am not unhappy with the new slight salt inflection, frankly I like it.
For my next batch of cleaning solution I will try using only pure water, this will not affect the on going smoking flavour, but i wonder if it will as effective. I think the salt content of the cleaning fluid is what creates the cleaning action in the first place … comments please from those with more knowledgge than I.|||My fear when Dr. Loi first posted his cleaning solution idea was that salt residue would be left on the atomizer and its roll cage! Even overnight, it would attract moisture and initiate rusting.
I know I made a mistake in cooking tobacco in salty liquid. I had a salt taste to everything for more than a day — proof that residue remains. I threw out everything I had made using salt and will never use it again. I’d be fearful to try "cleaning" with any salt solution. Pure water. Pure alcohol. I alternate between the two|||hmm, that does pose an interesting array of questions concerning the construction of the various parts of the atomizer.
For the atomizer to rust it would need to be made of a ferrous based material. that would mean either an iron or steel wool is used for the surrounding parts. I thought the wool used was of a stainless steel manufacture, but would stand correction there. The heater element I am almost certain is made from nichrome wire and would therefore not rust.|||I wonder if hydrogen peroxide might work? Seems it might dry pretty quick? Also, I use a hairdryer right after rinsing atomizer, and use the newly rnsed atomizer fora bit which the heat I think herlps to dry the insides of the rinse|||Good thought Nazareth,
hydrogen peroxide is exceptionally good at oxidising/removing biologicals, it may also work here just as effectively. How strong to use is the question I guess, 20 vol, 40 vol or 60 vol ?
It may not dry out as well as water, water is H2O and hydrogen peroxide is H2O2, it’s boiling point is 1580C / 316.40F so higher than water, but when it’s heated it breaks down to be (2H2O2 ==> 2H2O O2). That’s water plus oxygen. But the drying will depend on what it’s diluted with in the first place, it will need some further research before we go ahead and recommend it
Are you going to try it and see if it works ?|||the only Hydro I have is the weak 3% stuff that you can rinse mo0uth with- so it should be ok to try in the atomizer- I’ve got one atomizer that simply will NOT draw liquid from the Carts for some reason, and only works by dripping- so I mgiht give it a try on that one as it’s useless as it is for smoking like the pen is supposed to- with a cart- I’ve got another that is gettign very weak, I might possibly try it on that too- the two need somethign doen ot them evidently, so yeah, I might try it, but wish I had strogner hydro- but it might work- simple rinsing with water doesn’t seem to work- perhaps the hydro might.|||ok- I just soaked one of my old ‘dead’ atomizers (the atomizer would simpyl not draw any liquid fro mthe cart- would just burn off what was in the atomizer itsel;f, then nothing- no vapor, just burnt taste and smell- even htough I had new carts in) in the hydrogen peroxide- then rinsed with water, blew the excess water out of it- let it dry a bit, and primed it with juice- smoking good now- much easier to draw too than it was when it was ‘dying’ - I’m not sure why the atomizer was not drawing liquid from the carts before- I tried everything to get it to work and nothign did- boiled it, blew through battery end for 10 seconds, boiled it in water and baking soda- nothign worked- now it’s working pretty well- not as good as brand new one, but still ok I guess- will see how logn it lasts- I’d given up on the atomizer, but it appears it’s got soem morel ife yet- dunno if the Hydrogen was the trick or not, but it’s now workin- workign even better than my one I’ve only used for 7 days total. Might be worth a try if yall got soem that you think might be dead- ones you’ve given up on- Hydrogen peroxide is dirt cheap
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Ok, what am I missing?
Hi all.
I regularly read this forum, and have now had some experience with all of this, and so I have an…..assumption, and some questions.
I think a lot of us have had this experience… You get a new atomizer, crank it up, and the vapor is AWESOME. You really enjoy this new atomizer, BUT, after about 4 days of use, the vapor is still acceptable, but no where NEAR what it was on day one. So, you wash, clean, scrub, change carts, bats, etc. but can’t seem to get it back to it’s original glory. I’ve had this happen to me with an Njoy, Generics, a mini, and now with my Janty.
So, I been thinking about the construction of the atomizer and trying to figure out what changes from day one through day four. Here is what I am thinking…
I don’t believe that the wire mesh used to transfer the juice from the cart to the atomizer and surrounding the porcelain pot is degrading. It’s function is simply to transfer and hold the juice, and I find it hard to believe that this role degrades so rapidly. Second, The heating element itself may become charred somewhat, but again, I doubt that it’s ability to produce sufficient heat to vaporize the juice disappears. I’m also ruling out the batteries here because if I use those very same batteries on another new atomizer, I’m back to AWESOME vapor again. So, this only leaves one element, the material used in the core of the heating element.
I’ve seen in some of the photos that this core is normally charred and black after use. It is believed that this cores role is to provide physical support to the heating element, and to provide a method for the juice to get from the steel wool to the heating element. Now THIS sounds like it’s a likely candidate to be the component that is so drastically changing over those magic 4 days. So my questions are…. Does anyone know what this core material is? And, if it’s role is as assumed, why are they not using the same steel wool that is used on top of and around the pot? I assume that it too could support the heating element, transfer the juice, and NOT burn up.
And, depending on input from all of you, I have one last question… Is there any way to disassemble an atomizer NON-DESTRUCTIVELY? If I thought I could actually take one apart AND put it back together in a functional state, I would probably like to experiment a bit with this core-material and try and identify why my atomizers are only my close friends for about 4 days.
OK, so what am I missing?
Tex|||After ripping several atomizers apart i have come to the exact same conclusion as the mesh is still clean and free of debris but the wick is charred and stops soaking liquid as it should.
I struggled at first with the cleaning and think i found the secret to getting them 100% back to life as the one i have at present is 11 days old after 2 cleans as good as new.(could also just be luck)
When the atomizer starts to block place it in a pan stood on the battery end and fill with water to the level of the collar, then boil the water for 15 mins or so.(this makes the atomizer hotter than the water and causes bubbles of air to rush up inside the atomizer)
Now swish it about, drain, blow out water, add 3 drops of liquid, full cart and hey presto.(can take a good half hour puffing to flush water out and liquid in)
This could all be luck or simply the use of different liquid but give it a shot and let me know what you think|||steam cleaning !!! now theres a thought. i have a steam steriliser here for baby bottles etc..i may just try that when my atomizers start playing up.|||Hi Ted.
Funny about your suggestion. I JUST got done boiling a generic pen style and my mini. Of course, the pen style atomizer I am playing with a Glycerin/Coconut flavoring mixture (cause I puff to much with the high nicotine ones and needed something to play with) but it is cranking out a LOT of vapor, but again, I can’t attribute it just to the cleaning. I am going to boil another two generic pens and will only use (factory) carts to test those.
As for the mini…It too appears (so far) to be producing a lot more vapor. Lets see if it lasts.
Boiling does (on my first try) appear to improve the atomizer performance.
Anyway, I’d still like to get some answers. I’m silly that way.
Tex|||Yep had a few goes myself and the key seems to be standing it on its end as this gets the air bubbles to pass through the chamber cleaning the wick.
I’m sure between us all we can find a solution to the clogging issue as it seems to be around every corner.||| |||Apostle that was a brilliant thought!
I hauled my trusty old ‘Steam Bee’ out the cupboard and put the nozzle onto my atomiser. It has a pressurised steam that shoots out in bursts so I was a bit afraid I would blow my atomiser to pieces but thought it worth the try. I could not believe the gunk it blew out. Better still I haven’t waited for it to dry out either and it is working beautifully!
Just one word of caution it does make the atomiser very very hot - so if anyone tries this bear that in mind.
I think I have found my holy grail for cleaning. It’s very fast to do as the little steamer heats up quickly. One gets a combo of pressure & steam with this device. And it is great for cleaning other stuff too.
JML Steam Bee from JML Direct|||Felt inspired by the first attempt so I just steamed all my atomisers. Again I just waited till the atomiser cooled and then started puffing! All working like new so far.
I found two things, firstly the burnt taste has gone from my one atomiser that I tried cleaning yesterday with alcohol and then boiling. I thought I had ruined it as it seemed dead, but this morning it perked up. Although boiling improved it I could still taste a charred type of undertone. That is sorted now and I feel really pleased about it as I detest that burnt taste.
Second thing was that it left my atomiser very thirsty! I dripped a few drops onto it but the cart still seemed to empty really fast. Topped it up and enjoying the feeling of having brand new out the parcel atomisers. Hope it lasts and things don’t go pearshaped tomorrow - but so far so good!|||These are great ideas.. I might have to try them out on some of the atomizers I tested and I didnt feel comfortable selling because the draw was more than it should be..
Phil|||a steam bee eh? would love to try this. anyone up for swopsies on an ultrasonic jewerly cleaner?…i know you are!!I found a cheap one at Amazon: Amazon.com: Electric Steam Cleaner: Home & Garden
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