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two failed e-cig cigarillo battery chargers.. failed the first day of usage.. e -cig dont make them simply buy them in from the people that do..

replacement for failed e-cig chargers from deal extreme.. not cheap by chineses standards.. a soshine multi one.. 23 dollars..

failed a few seconds after being plugged in…

two more while waiting for deal extreme to send me a new soshine one..

note i order two of the buggers to make sure.. he he.. one failed after a days usage the other never worked from the word go.. the lights come on but nothing gets put into the battery..

out of eight AAA chinese lithium 10430 batteries i have three good ones left.. the rest show the correct voltage when under no load but go flat after two minutes use.. they will not pass any current.. this explains the trouble i was having getting my new replacement cigarillos to work..

the whole sorry saga defies logic..

the type of charger (screw in one) that comes with a mini and classic cig seems okay.. they show no problems.. as for the rest.. hmmm.. they really do defy logic..

checking these batteries isnt easy without the right equipment.. the failure rate is so high that trying several others isnt good enough.. they are all likely to be as bad.. he he he

its a bloody good job i bought eight to start with..

trog

ps.. my current home modded one that works.. a mini charger with fly lead added..

|||Trog…..hate to say I told you so…

Oh never mind.|||I will though LoL
Told ya so……
as looking under the bottom (Made in CHINA) Crap

Sorry bro..|||tell me where i can buy some made in the UK u silly told u so people and i will do..

give me credit for a modicum of sense and stop being so bloody insulting..

the damn stuff is made in china.. nowhere else..

in fact every damn thing is made in china… the joke is its all guaranteed as well..

i want a lithium battery charger.. its china.. i want lithium batteries its china..

even nerdies nearly catch fire janty usb one.. china.. guaranteed to fail after next to no use if the chinese ones i have are anything to go by..

i dont buy from china if there is one available down the bloody road.. sadly there isnt..

what puzzles me is the absurd failure rate for such simple devices.. i think the problem with little AAA batteries is the fact they are little AAA batteries being ask to do a task they aint up to..

i just did a test on one i thought was good.. using a 12 volt 21 watt car stop light bub.. it draws at 4 volts roughly the same current as an e cigarette atomizer coil .8 of an amp.. just off the charger reading 4.2 volts fully charged..

placed under load it lasted less then one minute before going flat or at least flat enough not to power an atomizer coil.. placed back in the charger it took 15 minutes to reach green and its fully charged switch off point of 4.2 volts.. in short its knackered.. the two i think are still alive are 75% knackered.. the other seven wont even produce a glimmer on the test bulb

i will add the larger 960 mah pipe style batteries dont die after a couple of charge disharge cycles its the small 350 mah AAA type that are having major problems.. the ones used to power cigars..

now if u i"told u so" people have enough experience as regards using these things and know where i can buy some that might last a little longer i would be happy to here from u.. if not the silly smug comments aint useful..
in fact i have some simple questions to ask janty.. ruyan.. njoy.. gamucci or any other of the more expensive e cigarette sellers.. i know they read this place..

the questions are very simple..

if i use one of your products.. how many actual hours smoking use is the atomizer rated for before failure or significant performance drop off occurs..

how many hours actual smoking use is the pressure switch rated for before failure occurs..

how many hours battery use is the battery rated for before significant loss of capacity occurs..

the questions are simple.. i will keep asking them until i get some valid answers..

how long the guarantee is i do not wish to know.. simple how long the products main components will last.. in actual hours usage figures..

any reputable seller should be able to answer such simple questions..

i have ask e-cig such questions in their own forum..

if they go wrong send them back for us to look at will not be considered a valid answer..

i am beginning to think this entire e smoking thing is being sold on a lie.. a guarantee that by far exceeds the known life of the main components of the product.. product failure and product returns are expected and allowed for in the initial cost.. if this is the case i think the people that are buying these products should be told the truth..

trog|||Let me chime in a moment with a remark (as I recall) that Perfectionist made on this forum awhile ago: If this had been the I-Cig from Apple instead of the E-Cig from China, we’d have worldwide acceptance of a quality product by now. As it stands today, the e-smoking infant might die long before reaching maturity, killed by shoddy products and grossly inflated profit margins.

I advised my tobacco shop chain owner NOT to sell e-smoking products just yet. The failure rate is unacceptably high. No brick-and-mortar merchant wants the hassle of returned atomizers and batteries that go dead within 24 hours. A lot of us — Trog, for sure — have been sold junk. In my case, I was SHORTED by E-Cig for a 50ml bottle — and "it’s not our fault" isn’t any kind of acceptable answer when a customer has Customs paperwork to show the opposite.

Seems like half the forum members here who are e-smoking keep real cigarettes on hand "just in case." The whole sorry situation is a complete turnoff for those considering e-smoking, and the manufacturers had better get their act together before many more governments step in. E-smoking is going to need popular demand or it’s not going to survive what lies ahead. I, too, am sick of the cost-cutting, potentially unsafe Chinese products. I would relish a quality alternative.|||Trog,
"tell me where i can buy some made in the UK u silly told u so people and i will do..

give me credit for a modicum of sense and stop being so bloody insulting.. "

Relax a little did you or did you not see LOL "lifes to short man"

"in fact every damn thing is made in china… the joke is its all guaranteed as well.. "

Cheap labor in fact still have the sweat shops and child labor.. no regulations…

"the questions are very simple..
if i use one of your products.. how many actual hours smoking use is the atomizer rated for before failure or significant performance drop off occurs..
how many hours actual smoking use is the pressure switch rated for before failure occurs..
how many hours battery use is the battery rated for before significant loss of capacity occurs..
the questions are simple.. i will keep asking them until i get some valid answers..
how long the guarantee is i do not wish to know.. simple how long the products main components will last.. in actual hours usage figures..
any reputable seller should be able to answer such simple questions..
i have ask e-cig such questions in their own forum..
if they go wrong send them back for us to look at will not be considered a valid answer.."

Good ??? can you say regulation or FDA or EPA it’s all about the money

The first I seen esmoken was at a casino in Colorado NJOY in a E-cig machine WOW this could be the solvent I have been searching for.. I have smoked for 28 years and I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired…

I still say from one man to another or woman if you don’t have integrity even if your from a different country Well I think you get my drift|||i did masterslave.. it was karen who irritated me.. i think we irritate each other..

she was being snide.. u were simple making a joke.. no probs..

but i am serious about the expected life of these things.. i have no problem with how some of them work i simple want to know how long before failure on atomizers.. switches and batteries..

i dont really care how long they last.. i simply want to know the figures.. i am annoyed by the buy the right brand and u wont get the problems nonsense..

i think they all have problems of atomizer/switch life i want to know what it is expected to be.. i think they know and if they dont know they should know..

if an atomizers lasts a month.. fair enough but the brand believers are beginning to annoy me.. he he he

if an expensive atomizer lasts longer lets have some proof.. a friendly smile and we will send a replacement in three weeks seem to satisfy most people so far.. it dosnt me..

to be honest i think these things are/were designed for occasional use.. social smoking.. occasional use types wont have any problems..

but the likes of me.. lets say three carts per day.. to use their own figures 900 puffs per day.. 900 switch activations per day.. 900 hot cold cycles for the little heater coil.. in ten days thats 9000 operations.. i dont expect these things to last the likes of me long.. i simple want to know how long.. how many puffs per atomizer/switch as well as how many puffs per cartridge..

so far the devices are being consumed at greater rate then the liquid.

trog||| |||Its depressing to see even the diehards getting upset about poor product standards.

I feel for you. And I, frankly, can point no fingers anywhere but the companies. This level of a failure rate is a problem with either manufacture or acquisition (either they are buying shoddy or they’re building shoddy).

It all boils down to unacceptable. I’m afraid to invest in another–better–e-cig because whose to say I won’t buy the lemon model? leaford, even your stellar review of the KISSbox is rife with equal parts ire at failed usb components, broken buttons on the manual, and other problems.

And those are the better brands! Their new flagship!

"Oh AMEN, brother. Never have we been SO on the same page. But the only way it could happen, either in the UK or the US, would be for a premium brand. Everything fom the construction of the factory, to the manufacturing machines, to the labor for ongoing manufacturing would necessarily cost more. I’d spend the extra money, but only if it truly produced a better product."

There is another way. One of the oldest sayings in quality standards: "if you want it done right, do it yourself".||| I honestly can’t say now that if forced to give up e-smoking or snus, I’ll choose one over the other. E-smoking realistically replaces the act of smoking a cigarette — and that’s a big deal to me. NRT has never worked for me, and I’ve always fallen back to some kind of "fake" cigarette I could carry in my hands all the time. Snus absolutely provides the nicotine to end any cravings. I am certain that I do not get my primary nicotine fix from e-smoking. That is primarily from Stonewall tobacco bits, then snus, then a pipe, then e-smoking. But I will not give up e-smoking .. because I now enjoy the flavors I’ve created, the look of vapor in and out, and the "something" in my hands.

BTW: Dripping NEVER worked, even once, with my E-Pipe. And I knew what was doing! It was a total failure. Seemed to drown the atomizer! Never could get more than a wisp from the thing. And, of course, without something to compare it with, how did I know this wasn’t just the way it was supposed to be?

Fortunately, there’s no need to choose among snus, e-smoking, etc. I can, and do, use them as I feel the need. I love the variety and don’t understand why anyone would limit themselves to one stop-smoking option. I’m a bit like BananaDoc in that I don’t think I need e-smoking for nicotine, but I do need it to replace the smoking experience. Jamie understands this, too. Hope that makes sense.

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