Wierd Janty issue.
I just discovered something wierd with one of my Janty batteries. It stopped working with the manual switch. The manual switch still works with the other battery, and with the USB, and the wierd battery still works with the automatic switch. This just started today, since I was using both batteries with the manual switch before.
I’m not really worried about it. I still have a couple older batteries from batch 3 I can use. It’s just wierd.
Can anyone think of what would cause this? I’m stumped.
|||hi leaford,few days ago i had post about similar strange behave of Janty manual switch. I think i figure out what the problem was with my switch. so, hope i can explain in my bad english; maybe you have the same issue. the main point is that battery loosing the contact with the switch. i guess the metal inside the of joint (between switch and battery) is quite soft. so when we fix strongly battery to switch its press little bit, for example i notice that my usb battery end going hardly in but switch still working with it; but with the battery not any more; so i took sand paper and polish the battery end for very little….so its start work again!!! the inner part get better contact 
hope its understandable.
i guess janty experiment with different batch and the sizes is not exact yet..|||this probably has nothing to do with your weird works with one battery and not with other problem leaford..
but the little positive center connections sit in a piece if silicone rubber to insulate them from the out part.. they are just a push fit and after repeated use get squidged in slightly compared to when new.. the contacts between battery and atomized get less pressure applied to them.. cleaning helps but isnt the real answer..
if a very small watchmakers screwdriver is used to lever the center part up very slightly the contacts are made again.. strangle enough screwing the two parts together too tightly is what cause this problem..
the silicone around the center contact loses its springiness.. this lead to poor battery contact on the positive connection..
your problem leaford needs some more thought.. he he he
trog||| |||I had a similar problem with my first Janty. The one battery would only work on manual switch and would not work with the auto.
They told me to send it back and they replaced it
|||OK, I get it. So the contacts are slightly springy, and one got pushed in a bit. ANd since the switch still works with other batteries, it’s probably the battery contact that got pushed in, not the switch contact, does that sound right?|||all i know is the inner contacts do get pushed and the pressure on them lessens.. the outer part cant fail to make contact.. the inner part does rely on the part being slightly springy.. if it isnt there is gap left on the outer part.. the outer part governs how far it screws in.. the inner part needs to stick up a bit but be springy to move in a little so as there isnt a visible gap..
a variation (how far the center parts stick up) from one battery to another and the same with the atomizers does exist..
trog
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Show Us Your Obsession
I have been reading A Lot of serious and doom and gloom threads lately.
I thought I would see if we can get a Fun one started. 
As you know, I am still pretty new to the whole E-cig thing.
I have already collected quite a pile of Parafinailia. This Pile will grow I know, I have a lot of stuff I havent even ordered yet 
I know how some of you people are obsessed with just collecting E-cigs, I’m sure you have a pile to even go with them.
So, the idea is to show your collections, Piles, Shelves, Crates, whatever you have. Your Labratory or collection or as some mentioned your "Attic Time Capsule for future generations" hehe 
|||Now that聮s precisely the reason I would like disposables. That聮s a lot of kit. I聮m starting to collect a lot of carts and liquid, and that to me is a pain. But that is a very impressive collection you have there.
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To drip or not to drip?
OK I would like everyone聮s opinions on dripping. I have just managed to successfully do the said. Personally I think it is more economical and more tasty, but is it good for your kit or not. I聮m very new to this e smoking and you people have quite a bit of experience. I know from reading the posts that lots of you do drip. And it seems to me that everyone聮s kit has a short life span dripping of not. So to drip or not to drip?|||hey smoking gnu …
Dripping is a rough subject to touch on. I don’t suggest it for someone new to esmoking only because they need to learn the basics first. Its very easy to flood an atomizer if not done properly, then you have to deal with the cleanup. Often, dripping can lead to fluid getting past the atomizer itself, and shorting your battery as well.
The best way to use liquid is to top off cartridges. When doing so, just fill enough to fully moisten the filling. If you notice a puddle on top, its very easy to flood the atomizer this way as well.
Just my $.02 cents…|||its the visual indicator cash.. topping the cart gives a visible indication of when to stop.. direct atomizor dripping dosnt.. its count the drops i hope..
but.. i use a 901 in preference to a classic purely cos i can top the carts and get the best results.. with classics i have to direct drip for best results… its all too easy to flood them.. one drip too many is enough..
pipes are brilliant to drip.. they hold lot more and it isnt so easy to flood them..
but the bottom line is if the atomizer aint getting enough fluid it aint gonna work as well..
i would say only do it if u have to.. i have to so i do it.. i would love not to have to thow..
trog||| |||In my opinion, the only way to really enjoy eSmoking to the fullest extent is to drip. When I bought my first e-cigs and one small 4ml bottle of e-liquid, I would use a syringe and slowly fill my cartridge until moistened. Then I would leave the cartridge upside-down for 10 minutes to make sure the wool in the cartridge had completely saturated the added liquid. I never dripped on the atomizer at first.
When my small 4ml bottle was gone. I didn’t like E-smoking without it. I needed that extra punch, even with new cartridges. So I smoked real cigs (just a couple) until my new e-liquid arrived.
When I became a pro at filling carts, I started dripping on the atomizer itself, but never more than one to two drops, which equals maybe one cigarette’s worth of smoking. That way I only had to clean/blow out my atomizers once per week.
Also, it depends on the brand of e-cig you are using. Some do not take well to dripping; others do. You soon find out through trial and error. My Sedansas can withstand a lot of dripping and topping off. They do eventually clog up if done too much and too often, but all I do is blow them out.
Also, if you use some of the fruity-flavored e-liquids — pinapple for one — it really clogs the atomizer and sometimes kills it. If you do end up with a permanently clogged atomizer, soak it in hot soapy water or white vinegar and water in a covered container for an hour, rinse well, blow out residual water, then let dry upside-down at an angle in the hot sun or with a hair dryer.||| |||With my DSE901 I drip - 1 drop. With my penstyle I will drip 2 or 3 drops. With my Janty Kissbox - I never drip, never had to, the carts work great.
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Pillbox 38
Pillboxes 38(Jason) liquid is something to behold..specially for us old timers on this forum..wow its like when you discovered e-smoking for the first time..ive not been happy with the carts and juice availble in the uk..because for me theres been no throat hit..but at last theres an e-juice on the market that delivers..
Flavours available:
Marlboro
tobacco
cherry
strawberry
state express (any one know what this tastes like)
Virginia
chocolate
liquorice
camel
french pipe
apple
banana
vanilla
menthol
Hilton (any one know what this tastes like)
coffee|||Holy cow - the liquorice is there!!! And then I looked on the bottles and it is plain to see….don’t know how I missed that - feel a right numpty now!
Anyone tried it yet?|||yep,its the bees knees…satisfaction at last!|||darcy is the throat hit of 18mg the same as 36mg? and are you happy with 18mg|||With the experience I’ve had kit the 36 is far far superior to the 18 except for the cigar in 18 which has a sting to it
|||i havent tried the 36mg yet kit,so i dont know…
but im getting good flavour and hit with the high pipe,specially compared to other liquids of similar strength…36mg is next on the shopping list.||| |||This juice is good stuff..but we must be carefull! i smoked about 5 drips in a space of 10 minutes..and began to get a degree of anxiety..getting a few drops in your mouth from a leaky cart.. could potentially bring on a panic attack or anxiety in some people..it felt like a mild amphetamine.|||Hi Kit…Glad you like it but if its making you feel shaky then drop to a lower nicotine level…i use lots of nicotine and always have so not experienced this…But im sure its not for all constitutions at this super strength..|||
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DSE901mini Is this a safe bet?
So if I got me a DSE901 From Simon e-cigs .co.uk. Would I be getting a good back up, and are they any good for dripping, as I have tried a mini before DSE101 with carts and I really don聮t like drinking the juice, its ok when I drip with it though. But rather than buy spares for that I was thinking 901.|||yes its a good backup,and yes,its good for dripping.||| |||hi gnu ,
The 901 seems to be the e-cig of choice for a lot of peeps. The 101 you got would be similar to smokesters! super mini on his webshop (RN4081), the 901 is bigger than a super but smaller than a classic. I have all 3 versions , RN4081 super mini,DSE901b mini and a RN4072 classic and the 901 has a nice form factor, its not huge like the pen and it doesnt look like a ciggie like the super mini does.
I’d recommend the 901 any day.|||All sounds GOOD to me. The 901b is the black one right?
||| |||I much prefer the classic.
Bigger & heavier but bigger cartridge and battery.
Little harder to draw, but better all round.
Black one arrived today, havn’t touched the 901 since I got the first classic.||| ||| |||I was thinking mini because that little 101 I聮ve got go聮s really well when its dripped, But one of the batteries is stuffed , and if I get some spares for that its more 拢拢 so I was thinking of the better 901 for the extra. But I do like the classic. You know a change is a bit of a rest, that sort of a thing.just get whichever one you fancy….youll probably end up buying both anyway.
if its an ecig for dripping youre after,id get a 901 personally-im dripping france pipe in mine right now,and its hitting the spot,plus its a tough ecig for dripping-less chance of leakage to the battery due to its design…
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BICKFORD Flavor List (Complete List)
Hello my fellow ECF Members …
I thought this list may be useful for everyone. Please share what flavors you like the best, and any experimental flavors you have tried mixing.
Retail Pricing [PG Based Flavors]:
1oz (29.6mL) bottle - $3.09 USD
4oz (118.3mL) bottle - $10.69 USD
8oz (236.6mL)bottle - $18.79 USD
16oz (473.1mL) bottle - $25.09 USD
32oz (946.2mL) bottle - $37.89 USD
128oz (3785mL) bottle - $81.59 USD
Bickford Flavors can be purchased directly from Bickford. See link below to order:
http://www.bickfordflavors.com/onlineordering.asp
Key:
NON-OIL Based Flavors = Green (Good To Go)[Propylene Glycol {PG} and Natural Flavors]
OIL Based Flavors = Red (DO NOT USE)[Soy Oil and Natural Flavors]
Current Flavor List:
Flavor - Item#
Almond – Item #0101
Amaretto – Item #0105
Anise – Item #0102
Apple – Item #0104
Apple Cherry – Item #0106
Apple Cinnamon – Item #0107
Apple Maple – Item #0108
Apricot – Item #0103
Banana – Item #0201
Banana Strawberry – Item #0213
Basil – Item #0219
Black Currant – Item #0215
Black Walnut – Item #0203
Blackberry – Item #0202
Blueberry – Item #0204
Bourbon – Item #0218
Boysenberry – Item #0217
Brandy – Item #0205
Burnt Sugar – Item #0216
Butter – Item #0206
Butter – Item #0226
Butter Almond – Item #0209
Butter Mint – Item #0214
Butter Pecan – Item #0208
Butter Rum – Item #0210
Butterscotch – Item #0207
Caramel – Item #0301
Champagne – Item #0318
Chardonnay – Item #0331
Cheesecake – Item #0310
Cherry Mint – Item #0320
Cherry, Sweet – Item #0302
Cherry, Wild – Item #0303
Chili – Item #0322
Chocolate – Item #0305
Choc. Almond – Item #0311
Choc. Cherry – Item #0312
Choc. Mint – Item #0313
Cinnamon – Item #0306
Cinnamon – Item #0336
Clove – Item #0307
Coconut – Item #0308
Coffee – Item #0309
Cola – Item #0321
Cranberry – Item #0314
Cream Cheese – Item #0316
Cr猫me de Menthe – Item #0315
Cream Soda – Item #0323
Eggnog – Item #0501
Garlic – Item #0703
Ginger – Item #0706
Graham Cracker – Item #0708
Grand Marnier – Item #0707
Grape – Item #0701
Guava – Item #0702
Habanero – Item #0804
Hazelnut – Item #0801
Horehound – Item #0802
Irish Cream – Item #0901
Kahlua – Item #1102
Key Lime – Item #1103
Kiwi Fruit – Item #1101
Lemon – Item #1201
Lemon – Item #1221
Lime – Item #1202
Lime – Item #1222
Malted Milk – Item #1306
Mango – Item #1304
Maple – Item #1301
Maple Walnut – Item #1305
Maraschino – Item #1302
Marshmallow – Item #1307
Melon – Item #2205
Mint – Item #1303
Nutmeg – Item #1401
Onion – Item #1502
Orange – Item #1501
Orange – Item #1521
Papaya – Item #1605
Passion Fruit – Item #1606
Peach – Item #1601
Peanut Butter – Item #1604
Pear – Item #1610
Pecan – Item #1608
Peppermint – Item #1602
Peppermint – Item #1622
Pina Colada – Item #1611
Pineapple – Item #1603
Pistachio – Item #1607
Plum – Item #1625
Praline – Item #1614
Pumpkin – Item #1612
Raisin – Item #1704
Raspberry – Item #1701
Root Beer – Item #1702
Rosemary – Item #1707
Rum – Item #1703
Rum RaisinItem – Item#1705
Sherry – Item #1801
Spearmint – Item #1802
Strawberry – Item #1803
Strawb. Guava – Item #1805
Strawb. Kiwi – Item #1806
Tangerine – Item #1902
Toffee – Item #1904
Tropical Fruit – Item #1901
Van. Butternut – Item #2500
Violet – Item #2501
Walnut – Item #2201
Watermelon – Item #2203
Wintergreen – Item #2202
Pure Vanilla – Item #2600
Dark Vanilla – Item #2700
Light Vanilla – Item #2800
Chlorophyll – Item #2900
-CaSH|||Great post, CaSHMeRe. Wish I had had that list when I was trying to decide what to order.
I think I have about a dozen flavors, and I’m still in the process of trying to test all of them.
So far, I think my favorite has been Peppermint. Some of the flavors are a little too subtle for me, but the Peppermint packs more of a punch.
Banana is one of the flavors that I was hoping to like, but the flavor doesn’t really come across. Could be my taste buds are completely destroyed from too many years of smoking. 
One mistake I made was to buy 2 bottles of Kahlua…..with so many options, it is hard to believe that I’ll ever get around to using more than one. Guess I just got carried away thinking about the real stuff! |||Thank you sooooooo much Cash!
That’s awesome.
Hey Smoky , we need some "sticky’s" here.|||Thanks for posting this - it will help out a lot… |||Not to sure if all the flavors are oil based but came across this? it say’s it uses propylene glycol
CaSHMeRe can you check it and let us know still kinda a newb LoL 
http://www.silvercloudestates.com/faq.aspx|||It’s too bad th chili and garlic flavors are oil based. My Thai friends would love them.||| ||| |||Bickford flavoring is great for who lives within their delivering-region (or has help from within that of course ). Outside of that people of course would love other, just as good choices (still hunting around for my region for instance)
Oh a small warning for the tastes they have double, like peppermint (both oil and propylene-glycol based): better doublecheck and perhaps underscore (for the shop-assistant) the articlenumbers of the right choice for those. Else you might end up with the wrong choice.|||I’m going to call them and ask what "natural" flavors means.
I want to know if contains any sugar or other "sticky" substance.
I’ll let you know what they tell me. coffee, hazelnut and peach.
The coffee smells like a fresh cup of coffee.
Those 3 little bottles will last a long long time,because you just need a little.Thanks Sanneke, great idea will do
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Nic Tolerance and Certain Liquids
Hey Everyone,
Have a series of questions for you all to see if I can help out a client of mine.
Now, it was always my understanding and personal experience that the higher the nic content got, the harsher the throat hit got as well.
With Zero Nic Liquid, the throat hit (as most commonly refer to it as) is almost non existent. This includes smoking Bickfords straight, and any other PG based zero nic liquid.
As I would move up the Nic chart, I would get a harsher throat hit, and so on and so forth.
Throat hits also depend on the device, meaning, a throat it from a mini, is different then that of a pen or a cigar, and vice versa …
Now, to my questions.
1. How many of you have the same type of device (901 vs. 901 — Pen vs. Pen) and have 2 different atomizer that produce different types of a throat him.
(Sorry if that wasn’t clear. In other words, Both atomizers produce great vapor, but one carries a throat hit and the other doesn’t?)
2. For those that started out at zero/low/med … Did you have to move up a strength or two to get that same throat hit? Not only a nic tolerance here, but also a "throat hit" tolerance?
Any and all replies, much appreciated!
Thanks guys and gals|||1. I have a white generic and a black generic pen , both from simon , I find using the same liquid that the black one gives a better kick , but the black one produces more vapour tho. both atomizers have had roughly the same usage.
I’ve also compared 901 atomizers together and i get much the same result there. some are better than others. I dont know due to the production methods if thats because some run hotter than other which it turn produces a harsher vapour or if it’s the battery connection to the atomizer. A battery with a good seal to the atomizer gives a stronger smoke than one which you can hear has less of a seal.
2. Sorry m8ty but cant help on this one as i’ve always used high |||You might want to read my problems im having with Trading Standards … Its about the nic carts etc etc …. I tried NO NIC CARTS today with my friend next door and we both came to the same result …. It tasted the same as the HIGH NIC CARTS ….. The problem with nicotine is that it takes about 7 sec to hit your brain from your lungs so you 1st thought is ….Hmmm Thats just the same with high nic…. So i will have to try no nic carts infuture to see if its a mind over matter thing lol lol …Hmmm … This could work.|||I agree with Rusty, I don’t think the nicotine is what gives throat hit/harshness.
I’ve found two things do that. One is additives in eliquid (diy eliquid is smooth because it doesn’t have the additives, or they are too dilute to notice much). The other thing that can give a harsh vapour is the type of atomiser. My Kissbox atomisers burn hotter than my bling, they cook the eliquid more and that changes the flavour and hit. I don’t know why they are harsher with the same juice but they are.|||Kate …. I have found that my super mini tastes a bit like plastic sometimes ….. Now i have asl tried my mini over a longer period of time and found the taste still good …. But I MUST SAY …. this was vaping all night lol lol lol …. I think the super mini atomiser design could be a fault, as the bit you suck on is actualy over the vap chamber which gets hot and heats up the plastic cap…. I think the further away the automiser is from the bit you got to suck on the better …. Less chance of a hot plastic taste….. I think the super mini woul suite the light smoker lol lol||| You don’t want to be vaping plastic fumes Rusty, be careful about that.|||What gives you the throte hit is the PG …. Its the feeling of taken somthing into lungs ….Thats what i think is 1 big diff between an e-cig and a nic inhaler, But i cant say that live !!!! The next good thing is being able to blow "smoke" back out and make stupit shapes….Whitch a lot of us like to do as im sure you seen on my videos lol lol lol|||Thats why i think he mini is better than the super mini, because the atomiser is further away from the plastic cap you suck on !!!!
|||I don’t think it’s the nic either. My diluted e-liquids seem pretty much the same as the strong stuff, I just vape the lower e-liquid more frequently whereas with the strong liquid I can put it down and take a break.
My 901’s deliver different results. Can’t figure it out!
I get more hit with my penstyle.
I also notice if I exhale through my nose I seem to feel more hit. It’s difficult to describe because I feel it at the back of my throat in the sec before it goes through the channel to my nose. This doesn’t depend on the device I am using - might just be me being odd though! ||| according to my china frd , he also into e cig but sadly I haven;t order from him yet ,
all the e cig is made in senzeh sorry for the typo mistake is a state in china.there is around 10 factories doing it maybe more.
and each dealers get their goods from there from different factories.
next in the first place e cig is bad quality made.this is a facts.u can see trog also comment alot on negative points on e cig.
but now it seem slowly improving the technology….
till now the atomiser part is the troublesome part .truely speaking.
next atomiser the parts mostly is hand made .
I do tried before various genenic models and branded ones
each got their own draw even using same model
example u are using dsc 901 , if u got two atomisers or more
do this test.
insert new cart in every atomiser .
test with fresh battery
each take a slow drag long draw
after testing playing around the atomisers , u surely can feel some atomisers is good some is bad…some able to draw out the taste well
some got burning tastes.
about nic hit , I feel high nic will have the draw ..the hit on ur throat.
flavours one not much or even none .
don;t mention those non nic and low nic cart .
and thus make me smoke higher nic in real cig?
last time I used to smoke low nic real cig , now move to high nic real cig after vapouring e cig.!!
sorry for talking too much .overall this is my experience .
now I know why some bros prefer throw away type of e cig..
atomisers cart , or ruyan throwway cigar.
this concept is good on saving ur money on always buying extra carts.
on topping up the cart.
charging ur e cig battery desperate when run out.
but bad point on throw away e cig concept is …expensive ..compare those standard e cig .
seriously I respect some of u can quit using e cig or cut down on real cig usage
as far as I know , my china frds still smoking real cig …beside e cigs.
cos to them e cig still haven;t reach the same feelings the same aftertastes like real cig.
the draw , the after smell in the throat….
especially the draw ..
sorry for my english…and nagging too much :PWhat other things contribute to the throat hit besides the actual nicotine? Received some JC arctic mint today, high nic (18mg PG) and it’s like smoking air. TONS of vapor and absolutely no feeling. I was really looking forward to it too but was very dissapointed. So just to be sure it wasn’t my atomizer, I dripped some liquid from puresmoker (less nic, like 14mg) into my dse901 and the throat hit was there in full force, just like it had always been, yet with less nicotine. Pepper oil maybe? Or some unknown chemical?
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Black speckles in 901 CART FIBRES !
is any one experiencing black like soot speckles in the cartridge fibres in the DSE 901 CARTS..
after smoking e-cigs-uk… juice and totoaly wiked mix..not sure if its the juice i doubt it !
because they are both good quality juices..im just wondering if it might be the atomizers but its only a week old strange..has anybody else encountered this?
Kit|||yep , i get this with all my cigs, even the ruyan bling. It’s only 2 or 3 specs mind you. I just put it down to the wire wool on the bridge gettin caught on the cart filling. It doesnt happen all the time tho , just occasionally.
If you blow out your atomizers with a bit off puff onto tissue paper you will no doubt see tiny particles from what i reckon is the wire wool.||| |||Paint flecks? I get those from the inner rim of the atomizer.||| |||has anyone else experienced this it seem to happen rather quickly when a new fresh cart has been dripped which makes me think its an atomizer problem???|||i dont think its burnt fibres Kit . I think the specs i get are wire wool from the atomizer.
Wire wool by its nature is brittle and i think thats what i’m getting. I never thought much of it tbh.
I just pulled the cart from my pen and there is one spec on the cart now.
I’ll try and get a pic up tommorow of what i get.||| |||I’ve seen those black specs in a few njoy carts a while back, carts fresh out of the packge.. not after being used or anything.|||well these particles are not just one or 2 more like 7 or 8 is quiet off putting but have never experienced it before until i used the new wiked and e-cig.uk range of juice..it worrys me that i might be inhaleing it apostle post that pic dude im interesed to see it .I am getting the specks as well.
I think they are just tiny burnt pieces of the wick inside the coil.
The only black object i can see in there is the wick.
This is a newer atomizer too, so it may just be the frayed ends burning off.
You wont inhale them anyway, (i dont think) its just the cart is up against, so it picks them up.
Think I would rather pick them off my cart stuffing, then get stuck in the atomizer somewhere.
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now weird reaction of kick and feeling between real cig and e cig
all the while I smoke this "Next" brand.
it stated 8mg tar and 0.6 mg nictoine
also in the same time I e cig .but that is during at home soley , I don;t bring e cig out . one or two sticks at home.
while outside I smoke real cig.
today I got the urge try the higher nicotine cigarette that is marbloro red.
now my country , the marbloro tar and nicotine is seem lower..stated 13mg tar and 1.0 mg nicotine. last time if I remb is 1.2 nicotine.
than puff ..seem like I don;t feel the kick as in e cig??next while I smoke e cig..I have to puff alot of times to get the feel
now the weird part is …seem like on both real cig and e cig I don;t have the kick next my mind always think of puffing e cig than real cig is really weird or is it me alone?seem like I addicted more on e cig?|||u are unusual fish in the sense u are still using both types of smoking.. its possible your nicotine needs have gone up because of e cigs.. i think mine have..
trog|||
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Which devices do you use and how?
I’ve noticed that quite a few people on the forum have a few different devices that they use. At first I couldn’t understand why anyone would want more than one good device but now I’ve got a few myself I’ve found that they have different benefits.
I like my RN4072 classic for testing and dripping. It gives off a respectable vapour and keeps the taste of the liquid well. I don’t like using cartridges in it because I can’t get good vapour with them. It’s a good workhorse and I don’t fuss too much about being heavy handed with it, it’s easy to replace parts. I don’t use it much now but it’s handy to have as a backup.
My Ruyan bling ecigar is great for taste, I refill the Ruyan cartridges with my diy juice because I don’t like the Ruyan eliquid. The taste of whatever eliquid I use really comes through, no overcooking or anything with the atomiser. It’s a very smooth taste for me too. The only thing wrong with it is it’s a bit chunky and too heavy to hold between your teeth for any length of time. The draw is lighter than my RN4072 but harder than my Kissbox.
The other device I’ve been using lately is a Janty Kissbox Classic. It’s been a bit of an experience getting used to this and I’ve had to relearn my esmoking technique but I’m starting to get the benefit of it. It has the lightest draw and the manual switch makes a lot of sense, vapour when it’s required, no excess drawing. For me the atomiser burns hotter than my other devices and seems to cook the eliquid a bit more. This gives the vapour a bit of a bite and a harsher hit to the throat. I’m getting used to the taste now and like it but it wasn’t easy. It doesn’t carry eliquid flavour as well as my other devices but the ease of draw gives it its place. I use it when I just want a ’smoke’ without the struggle of primer puffs and harder drawing. I’m not good with dripping it yet so I’m using Janty cartridges for now.
Which devices do you use most and how?|||Well i got :
DSE-901b :
from smokester, I use this one mainly if im at work or out and about because its a nice size, cart size is adequate too and i dont vape much when im out and about.
I like the draw on it, just right and im using standard reg high carts and topping off when required with a mix of various e-juice.
RN4072 :
again from smokester, Thought i’d get one of these for e-smoking at home due to the larger cart and bigger battery. seems i’m constantly vaping at home The Draw on this was harder than the 901 and at first i kinda prefered it tbh but just recently the draw is like a macdonalds milkshake…bloody hard, still quite usable though, good amounts of vapour and give a satisfying smoke. Again i use standard hi carts and topping off with the same cocktail of liquids.
Cheapy Generic pen style from ebay :
got this for 拢15 for a full starter kit and 15 carts. currently my weapon of choice at home. It has a 4 hole atomizer that gives a similar draw to the 901 and it pumps out an imense amount of vapour. Tasted a bit weird with the factory prime but after a few hours of use this subsided and it tastes great.
only thing is the carts are slightly shorter thn those for the RN4072 so i cant use those and getting new carts may be tricky but i got 15 of them to re-use so should last a while. It’s a nice purple colour too which i like . smoking it the same way as the other 2 by topping off carts. for 拢15 i may get another for the spares.
I’m currently waiting on delivery of the Ruyan bling and a dealExtreme e-cigar. i also won another ebay auction for a Pen style for 拢6.50 the seller was delayed posting it so i havent got that yet so to apologise for the delay he said he’d throw in a mini e-cig too..result.|||Purple, eh? How about a link, Apostle?
I have a Sedansa Diva, which is unfortunatly out of commission (a JC SJ casualty) but was my main e-smoker.
My main backup penstyle is the Janty, followed by my Njoy, and last, my white generic.
Then, for minis, I like the Janty Yentyl best, followed by the 901. I have one 901b from Smokester left, and one each left from Pillbox and Meltrix. Not to mention one from Smuke.
For Superminis, the only one I really like right now is the 101b, the new 89mm one. You can get it from Paxesshop.co.uk, or from ePuffer. It’s as small and almost as light as a real cigarette. Superminis in general sacrifice performance for their size, giving you less vapor due to the smaller atomizer, and shorter cartridge and battery life. BUt IMO they aren’t smaller or lighter enough to be worth the trade. The 101b is small and light enough to be worth it.|||the purple pen..lol sounds like some failed superhero. looks more burgendy in the pic tho :
PURPLE ELECTRONIC CIGARETTE 15 CARTRIDGES AND FREE CASE on eBay, also, Quitting Smoking, Health Care, Health Beauty (end time 08-Sep-08 19:45:00 BST)
he’s currently selling a black pen :
BLACK ELECTRONIC CIGARETTE 15 CARTRIDGES AND FREE CASE on eBay, also, Quitting Smoking, Health Care, Health Beauty (end time 15-Sep-08 20:30:00 BST)
he seems to sell a few a week.
Also the batteries seem compatible with the RN4072 atomizers but for some reason the chargers are not compatible ( slightly different thread )|||Jane’s "Great White atomizer" Janty manuel switch, USB direct smoke power supply. This baby smokes, with Jane’s 555 e-juice, atomizer pops and cracks, and produces big smoke. WOW|||The cases that seller on ebay has look ok Apostle, what do you think of yours, any good? Is there room for a small bottle for dripping?
It’s interesting that you have just about everything on the market Leaford and you use a Sedansa Diva as a primary device. Is that because it’s easy to use? Did you have to work on technique with it as I’ve had to with my Kissbox?
That’s an awesome combo Leonardjohn. I like the manual switch too and the USB battery is handy. I’ve just tried an RN4072 with my Kissbox switch and battery but it’s not heating up.|||I only have an njoy and a kissbox. I have no specific use for them, I just pick up whichever one I feel like using lol. I pretty much use them 50/50. If I’m out places I usually take my njoy cause the Janty is nicer and if I’m going to drop one on the cement or something I’d rather it be the njoy :P|||Kate, I like (well, liked, I’m waiting for replacement parts) my Diva because it was such a good vapor producer, and was very reliable, and had a long lasting battery. It wouldn’t normally need any kind of priming, just a smooth easy draw. The long cutoff would get a bit annoying, but that’s where having a mini in my pocket came in handy. (Wait a minnit. Mini in my pocket? That just sounds wrong. 
)|||The cut off was part of the problem I had with the Diva when I was a newbie. I thought the batteries needed charging when they flashed so much. I was certain that they were only lasting for an hour or two at most. Now I think it was the cut off … duh! I was also thrown off by the atomiser getting very hot. Now that I’ve tried the Kissbox and experienced the same thing with it I think it’s just how they are and maybe they are more efficient than most. The Diva and the Kissbox both have four hole atomisers too and apparently that makes a difference. There is more of a harshness to the taste with them that has taken me some getting used to, I’ve become used to smooth tastes with little hit to the throat.||| That’s a pretty good deal I reckon. Good find.Today Kate I will be mostly using the diva.
With Turkish carts toped up with e -cigs.co.uk camel taster sample.I agree with both (or is that the 3 of you?).
Wait, I don’t have that one. Awwwww crap! Now I have to ask my kids if daddy can have his credit card back (Stupid forum!) 
